New “Rough” Country Lift
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New “Rough” Country Lift
Have 31 but they look extremely small so gotta sell them due to them being brand new. and get 32 or 33s hahah
So this weekend me and my dad installed the rough country lift kit I decided to go with 4.5 inch lift with full leaf packs. I understand it may be a little rough but I’m experiencing extreme roughy and bumy ride if I go over small pot hole or I’d the rode isn’t flat.... also I get a lot knocking noise ever once in awhile if I hit a bump. Any suggestions or what the problem could be? Also the lift turned out about 6 inches instead of 4. It’s also short arm lift.. any explanation for the extreme high with the lift also not big deal tho j
So this weekend me and my dad installed the rough country lift kit I decided to go with 4.5 inch lift with full leaf packs. I understand it may be a little rough but I’m experiencing extreme roughy and bumy ride if I go over small pot hole or I’d the rode isn’t flat.... also I get a lot knocking noise ever once in awhile if I hit a bump. Any suggestions or what the problem could be? Also the lift turned out about 6 inches instead of 4. It’s also short arm lift.. any explanation for the extreme high with the lift also not big deal tho j
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alright many things will do this, and that's the part where it sucks because you already paid for a lift but if you want to do it right you're still gonna have to spend.
rough ride in the front : short arms will cause this. the proper way to fix this is to get control arm drop brackets, with that will come adjustable control arms (I'm guessing yours are non-adjustables). so at this point, if you're gonna have to spend might aswell do it right, so I'd suggest long arms instead. this also fixes the problem and will give you better articulation and clearance than short arms with drop brackets. this will also solve the tire position, because right now it's pretty close to the fender. that's because the control arms are short and make it so the axle sits further back a little.
rough ride in the rear : rough country are known for stiff springs. that being said your shackle angle is probably around 90 degrees, which makes bumps unbearable and very rough. the solution is shackle relocation boxes. that alone can fix a good part of your rough ride, but keep in mind there's different kinds of relocation boxes. rough country's ones will give you some lift but are bolt on, while some others are no-lift but require some cutting and fabrication.
rough ride in the front : short arms will cause this. the proper way to fix this is to get control arm drop brackets, with that will come adjustable control arms (I'm guessing yours are non-adjustables). so at this point, if you're gonna have to spend might aswell do it right, so I'd suggest long arms instead. this also fixes the problem and will give you better articulation and clearance than short arms with drop brackets. this will also solve the tire position, because right now it's pretty close to the fender. that's because the control arms are short and make it so the axle sits further back a little.
rough ride in the rear : rough country are known for stiff springs. that being said your shackle angle is probably around 90 degrees, which makes bumps unbearable and very rough. the solution is shackle relocation boxes. that alone can fix a good part of your rough ride, but keep in mind there's different kinds of relocation boxes. rough country's ones will give you some lift but are bolt on, while some others are no-lift but require some cutting and fabrication.
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You can do drop brackets to get the ride up front better.
I did, and I DO NOT have adjustable arms, and my front tire is pretty much centered in the wheel well.
For the rear, you'd have to do the no lift shackle relocation kit to smooth things out and not go any higher.
I am @ 4.5" as well, but my springs are not new, and I don't sit as high as you, even tho I also have 31's.
Did you put the weight of the jeep on the suspension before you tightened the leaf springs or control arms ??
The clunking could be a few things....driveshaft (4.5 usually needs a SYE), sway bar bushings or end links, shock bushing off center, worn out shackles, bad TRE or track bar (did you put in new at least with the lift ?)...............
Was it a 6" kit, or is it a new 4.5" kit that needs to settle out some ?
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I did, and I DO NOT have adjustable arms, and my front tire is pretty much centered in the wheel well.
For the rear, you'd have to do the no lift shackle relocation kit to smooth things out and not go any higher.
I am @ 4.5" as well, but my springs are not new, and I don't sit as high as you, even tho I also have 31's.
Did you put the weight of the jeep on the suspension before you tightened the leaf springs or control arms ??
The clunking could be a few things....driveshaft (4.5 usually needs a SYE), sway bar bushings or end links, shock bushing off center, worn out shackles, bad TRE or track bar (did you put in new at least with the lift ?)...............
Was it a 6" kit, or is it a new 4.5" kit that needs to settle out some ?
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After getting it repositioned
So today I got rear shackle at better angle by loosening shackle up and shacking jeep back and forth for awhile got the shackle in better position then it was before... lower control arms and upper I’m thinking of getting the CavFab Motosports adjustable upper and lower control arms, anyone use them before?
So today I got rear shackle at better angle by loosening shackle up and shacking jeep back and forth for awhile got the shackle in better position then it was before... lower control arms and upper I’m thinking of getting the CavFab Motosports adjustable upper and lower control arms, anyone use them before?
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Based on your photos, you either got a bigger lift than indicated or they sent you the wrong parts...your control arm angle looks like it is at 50 degrees or more. Your rear shackle is pointed the wrong way, should be pointed backwards. Even with 33s you won't fill the wheel well with that much lift.
honestly, measure the lift height to figure out what you got first. Then determine what to do from there. If it's over 4.5 you've got some work to do to make it ride appropriately
this is mine with 3.5" lift, 33s and slightly trimmed fenders for reference
honestly, measure the lift height to figure out what you got first. Then determine what to do from there. If it's over 4.5 you've got some work to do to make it ride appropriately
this is mine with 3.5" lift, 33s and slightly trimmed fenders for reference
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After getting it repositioned
So today I got rear shackle at better angle by loosening shackle up and shacking jeep back and forth for awhile got the shackle in better position then it was before... lower control arms and upper I’m thinking of getting the CavFab Motosports adjustable upper and lower control arms, anyone use them before?
So today I got rear shackle at better angle by loosening shackle up and shacking jeep back and forth for awhile got the shackle in better position then it was before... lower control arms and upper I’m thinking of getting the CavFab Motosports adjustable upper and lower control arms, anyone use them before?
Also as mentioned, you'll want a SYE at that height, and an adjustable track bar...
The higher you go, the more it costs, and harder it gets to dial in.
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Adjustable's may help slightly, but the only way to get it right is change the geometry. The problem with short arms is it rides like a pogo stick at taller heights. To ease that, you need to drop the mount points down, or move them further back and extend. The rear shackle still looks pretty straight up and down, you can change that with relocation boxes or boomerang shackles.
Also as mentioned, you'll want a SYE at that height, and an adjustable track bar...
The higher you go, the more it costs, and harder it gets to dial in.
Also as mentioned, you'll want a SYE at that height, and an adjustable track bar...
The higher you go, the more it costs, and harder it gets to dial in.
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Based on your photos, you either got a bigger lift than indicated or they sent you the wrong parts...your control arm angle looks like it is at 50 degrees or more. Your rear shackle is pointed the wrong way, should be pointed backwards. Even with 33s you won't fill the wheel well with that much lift.
honestly, measure the lift height to figure out what you got first. Then determine what to do from there. If it's over 4.5 you've got some work to do to make it ride appropriately
this is mine with 3.5" lift, 33s and slightly trimmed fenders for reference
honestly, measure the lift height to figure out what you got first. Then determine what to do from there. If it's over 4.5 you've got some work to do to make it ride appropriately
this is mine with 3.5" lift, 33s and slightly trimmed fenders for reference
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Based on your photos, you either got a bigger lift than indicated or they sent you the wrong parts...your control arm angle looks like it is at 50 degrees or more. Your rear shackle is pointed the wrong way, should be pointed backwards. Even with 33s you won't fill the wheel well with that much lift.
honestly, measure the lift height to figure out what you got first. Then determine what to do from there. If it's over 4.5 you've got some work to do to make it ride appropriately
this is mine with 3.5" lift, 33s and slightly trimmed fenders for reference
honestly, measure the lift height to figure out what you got first. Then determine what to do from there. If it's over 4.5 you've got some work to do to make it ride appropriately
this is mine with 3.5" lift, 33s and slightly trimmed fenders for reference
So i measured the lift and I'm sitting at 6.5 inchs then called rough country and they had me take measurements of coils and they where about 18 inchs and the guy said give it about 200-300 miles and see if it settles, because right now there about inch longer...
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Depends, what do you want it to do?
Mainly street with mild offroad, you'll be fine. Uncomfortable, but fine.
Daily driver/weekend warrior? Long arms.
Hardcore offroad? Definitely LA's, 3 link, etc
To do it properly takes a lot of research, money, time, patience, blah blah blah...
I know it's easy to get sucked in by seeing a "lift kit" offered at a low price...but they are all not created equal. Gotta do your research to do it right. One of the reasons I hate RC products, they prey on people's wallets, offering a "complete" lift kit, when it's anything but. They lure new guys in with low price.
Mainly street with mild offroad, you'll be fine. Uncomfortable, but fine.
Daily driver/weekend warrior? Long arms.
Hardcore offroad? Definitely LA's, 3 link, etc
To do it properly takes a lot of research, money, time, patience, blah blah blah...
I know it's easy to get sucked in by seeing a "lift kit" offered at a low price...but they are all not created equal. Gotta do your research to do it right. One of the reasons I hate RC products, they prey on people's wallets, offering a "complete" lift kit, when it's anything but. They lure new guys in with low price.
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Depends, what do you want it to do?
Mainly street with mild offroad, you'll be fine. Uncomfortable, but fine.
Daily driver/weekend warrior? Long arms.
Hardcore offroad? Definitely LA's, 3 link, etc
To do it properly takes a lot of research, money, time, patience, blah blah blah...
I know it's easy to get sucked in by seeing a "lift kit" offered at a low price...but they are all not created equal. Gotta do your research to do it right. One of the reasons I hate RC products, they prey on people's wallets, offering a "complete" lift kit, when it's anything but. They lure new guys in with low price.
Mainly street with mild offroad, you'll be fine. Uncomfortable, but fine.
Daily driver/weekend warrior? Long arms.
Hardcore offroad? Definitely LA's, 3 link, etc
To do it properly takes a lot of research, money, time, patience, blah blah blah...
I know it's easy to get sucked in by seeing a "lift kit" offered at a low price...but they are all not created equal. Gotta do your research to do it right. One of the reasons I hate RC products, they prey on people's wallets, offering a "complete" lift kit, when it's anything but. They lure new guys in with low price.