New Motor
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,924
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
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From: Missoula, MT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Golen 4.6 Stroker, AFE Headers, 62mm TB, 24 LB Injectors, Brown Dog kit, HF Cat, 3" Exhaust
Great first post! Welcome to the forum!
Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Maybe, maybe not. There are a lot of armchair experts telling guys working on their Jeeps for the very first time, in their driveway with limited experience, that it only takes 5 minutes to do drive shaft U joints. It takes at least 5 minutes to get the thing on jack stands so you can crawl underneath...
Maybe, maybe not. There are a lot of armchair experts telling guys working on their Jeeps for the very first time, in their driveway with limited experience, that it only takes 5 minutes to do drive shaft U joints. It takes at least 5 minutes to get the thing on jack stands so you can crawl underneath...
I consider myself pretty darn good............................and I don't believe I could do that in under an hour.....................I do take my time often, to make sure I don't miss anything.....
I have gotten pretty good at replacing the clutch in my Firehawk though.
I got it down to around 5 hours and 45 minutes from the time I pull it into the garage, until I am backing it out...........
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From: Missoula, MT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Golen 4.6 Stroker, AFE Headers, 62mm TB, 24 LB Injectors, Brown Dog kit, HF Cat, 3" Exhaust
Maybe, maybe not. There are a lot of armchair experts telling guys working on their Jeeps for the very first time, in their driveway with limited experience, that it only takes 5 minutes to do drive shaft U joints. It takes at least 5 minutes to get the thing on jack stands so you can crawl underneath...
I have found that most of the "times" people attach to things on here are fairly slow and I dont run into half the problems they do. (lift kits, gaskets,brakes,bumpers etc. )
I mostly just found it funny that he called them "fish stories" like people lie to exaggerate their mechanical prowess. I suppose that might happen lol.
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From: Florida
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: Golen 4.6L
There are also a lot of if-it-wasn't-fors. As in:
"Did the whole thing in 20 minutes."
"Really? Just 20 minutes?"
"Well, it woulda took me 20 minutes if it wasn't for the bleed nipple I sheared off and the wrench I couldn't find."
"So how long did it really take from beginning to end?"
"About nine hours. But it was really only 20 minutes of actually working on the brakes."
No. All of it counts. Even the time you spend drinking a beer to maintain your calm. Even the time you spend taking it apart and putting it back together again because you put them on upside down. Even the time you spend reading the manual trying to figure out why you have parts left over.
All of it.
Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Yep ^
I am not afraid to admit that it took me over a day to "tighten the front right brake caliper". Lower pin had sheared off in the knuckle... Found the source of the noise! That was in the evening. I learned how to drill out a bolt and use an "easy-out" extractor the next day.
Oil changes take me about an hour start to finish, on all of my vehicles: Get the thing up on ramps, drag out the tools, drain it, prefill filter, change filter, yank all the crap out I had underneath the vehicle, add most of the oil, start the engine to build oil pressure and back off ramp, check for leaks, wait a couple minutes to let the oil settle (pack tools while waiting), top off oil, put rest of junk away, drain oil into jug, final cleanup then close my shed. Did the truck last week in the evening so I needed to bring out lights to see WTF I was doing, too. LOL
I am not afraid to admit that it took me over a day to "tighten the front right brake caliper". Lower pin had sheared off in the knuckle... Found the source of the noise! That was in the evening. I learned how to drill out a bolt and use an "easy-out" extractor the next day.
Oil changes take me about an hour start to finish, on all of my vehicles: Get the thing up on ramps, drag out the tools, drain it, prefill filter, change filter, yank all the crap out I had underneath the vehicle, add most of the oil, start the engine to build oil pressure and back off ramp, check for leaks, wait a couple minutes to let the oil settle (pack tools while waiting), top off oil, put rest of junk away, drain oil into jug, final cleanup then close my shed. Did the truck last week in the evening so I needed to bring out lights to see WTF I was doing, too. LOL
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
Who cares how long it takes? Do it right. You can't rush perfection, LOL...
I've never understood time estimates for jobs outside of a professional shop. Every job is different, every ride is different, sometimes shiz just happens that makes it take longer, like sheared bolts, rounded off heads, and sometimes just plain stupidity. I've been working on putting a stroker in my Jeep that was advertised as "drop in ready"...I will admit, it probably could have been in already, but, I spent quite a bit of coin for this "drop in ready" motor, and along the way, guess what? I found little things that needed attention to make it right. Cracks in the header, put a new coat of paint on it, replaced certain items that are just easy to replace now, etc, etc...i am NOT dissing the guy I bought it from, not in the least, I'm just of the mind of if you're going to do it, do it right. A few of you guys know what I've been working on, and have watched it from the beginning, but the other day, I was going through some pics of the build, and saw some from when I first brought it home, to how it looks now. Here's a pic from before, and one of how it looks now.
Before:


After:


As you can see, it pays to take your time. It's been tough not having my new motor in, however..,.the time, money and effort spent, will make it well worth it. Yes, it took more time. Yes, it took more money. No, I'm not sorry, LOL...the end result will be awesome.
I've never understood time estimates for jobs outside of a professional shop. Every job is different, every ride is different, sometimes shiz just happens that makes it take longer, like sheared bolts, rounded off heads, and sometimes just plain stupidity. I've been working on putting a stroker in my Jeep that was advertised as "drop in ready"...I will admit, it probably could have been in already, but, I spent quite a bit of coin for this "drop in ready" motor, and along the way, guess what? I found little things that needed attention to make it right. Cracks in the header, put a new coat of paint on it, replaced certain items that are just easy to replace now, etc, etc...i am NOT dissing the guy I bought it from, not in the least, I'm just of the mind of if you're going to do it, do it right. A few of you guys know what I've been working on, and have watched it from the beginning, but the other day, I was going through some pics of the build, and saw some from when I first brought it home, to how it looks now. Here's a pic from before, and one of how it looks now.
Before:


After:


As you can see, it pays to take your time. It's been tough not having my new motor in, however..,.the time, money and effort spent, will make it well worth it. Yes, it took more time. Yes, it took more money. No, I'm not sorry, LOL...the end result will be awesome.
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Joined: Feb 2010
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From: Missoula, MT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Golen 4.6 Stroker, AFE Headers, 62mm TB, 24 LB Injectors, Brown Dog kit, HF Cat, 3" Exhaust
Looks good man! Mine was more red haha.


Now its usually brown (live on a dirt/mud road) but cleans up nicely


Now its usually brown (live on a dirt/mud road) but cleans up nicely
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From: Lapeer, Murder Mitten
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Who cares how long it takes? Do it right. You can't rush perfection, LOL...
I've never understood time estimates for jobs outside of a professional shop. Every job is different, every ride is different, sometimes shiz just happens that makes it take longer, like sheared bolts, rounded off heads, and sometimes just plain stupidity. I've been working on putting a stroker in my Jeep that was advertised as "drop in ready"...I will admit, it probably could have been in already, but, I spent quite a bit of coin for this "drop in ready" motor, and along the way, guess what? I found little things that needed attention to make it right. Cracks in the header, put a new coat of paint on it, replaced certain items that are just easy to replace now, etc, etc...i am NOT dissing the guy I bought it from, not in the least, I'm just of the mind of if you're going to do it, do it right. A few of you guys know what I've been working on, and have watched it from the beginning, but the other day, I was going through some pics of the build, and saw some from when I first brought it home, to how it looks now. Here's a pic from before, and one of how it looks now.
As you can see, it pays to take your time. It's been tough not having my new motor in, however..,.the time, money and effort spent, will make it well worth it. Yes, it took more time. Yes, it took more money. No, I'm not sorry, LOL...the end result will be awesome.
I've never understood time estimates for jobs outside of a professional shop. Every job is different, every ride is different, sometimes shiz just happens that makes it take longer, like sheared bolts, rounded off heads, and sometimes just plain stupidity. I've been working on putting a stroker in my Jeep that was advertised as "drop in ready"...I will admit, it probably could have been in already, but, I spent quite a bit of coin for this "drop in ready" motor, and along the way, guess what? I found little things that needed attention to make it right. Cracks in the header, put a new coat of paint on it, replaced certain items that are just easy to replace now, etc, etc...i am NOT dissing the guy I bought it from, not in the least, I'm just of the mind of if you're going to do it, do it right. A few of you guys know what I've been working on, and have watched it from the beginning, but the other day, I was going through some pics of the build, and saw some from when I first brought it home, to how it looks now. Here's a pic from before, and one of how it looks now.
As you can see, it pays to take your time. It's been tough not having my new motor in, however..,.the time, money and effort spent, will make it well worth it. Yes, it took more time. Yes, it took more money. No, I'm not sorry, LOL...the end result will be awesome.
As to time, lol, I usually have to double it, but don't confuse me with Bimmer
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