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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 02:09 AM
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Hi I'm a new member.
I recently had my 99 grand cherokee in the body shop after a passanger side collision which caused the bending of the lower control arm and caused the replacement of the front diff, obviously the complete front end was dis assembled.
I've had my jeep back on the road about 2 weeks,I have started to notice lotsa banging under my feet mostly when I hit bumps and make turns to the right, I contacted the so called acredited body shop and explained my issues and they told me to bring it back but before I did I hired a certified mobile mechanic to have a look and he found some pretty obvious problems but again cause I'm green with this stuff I want some more opinions so I don't look like a total fool when I contact icbc and the shop responsible.
Now the after market control arms I did have before accident were replaced with the BDS 5500 series adjustable ones,if the pic works have a look at the grease oozing outa the yolk,now according to the mechanic these yolks should have rubber seals to keep the grease in,is he correct ? Both sides have no seals and never had grease in them from the shop,grease was added to show for pic,he says because of no seals or grease this is why it's sloppy


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When jacking up jeep and setting it on jack stands to relieve pressure on front end the mechanic was able to simply pull out my springs with very little effort,he said the isolators are missing the mounting bolts,he went as far as snaking a fiber optic camera up inside to show me the bolt hole with no bolt,so again are the isolators suppose to be firmly mounted to frame with bolts or as the mechanic also mentioned maybe they are simply pressure seated in?



The mechanic also found that my upper control arm on accident side is bent and resting against frame and wasn't replaced, the next picture is the upper drivers side control arm,you'll notice it was installed off center of its bushing ,this is causing the top end to contact frame and rub,I'll take his word that it's installed wrong because the passanger side although bent is centered on its bushing.



Any input, comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated thank you
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 05:34 AM
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Sounds like you are already aware of the issues. A mechanic inspecting the vehicle in person can tell you a lot more than we can from a couple pics.
But as far as I can tell from the pics, the mechanic seems to know a lot more than the body shop. Did he give you a written list of problems to take back to the shop?
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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^ Correct and you do need a list of all items and ask the other person if he wiil help you as to the problems if they don't fix them and you end up in Small Claims court by documenting all the problems. ^
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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Every video I watch of coil spring removal shows the use of a compression tool to remove spring, mine are just sitting in there and only under pressure from weight of front end, is this normal in some cases?
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ross Chapman
Every video I watch of coil spring removal shows the use of a compression tool to remove spring, mine are just sitting in there and only under pressure from weight of front end, is this normal in some cases?
Normal, provided that those pictures are on a lift of some type with the front wheels hanging. The coil spacer is excessive, a proper sized coil will stay in contact better when suspension droops.

The grease oozing out of joints is normal for those type joints, they do not come with dust shields. Can be rebuilt also.
The rubber bushing on top of axle is pressed into axle, looks like it was not pressed in far enough.
The joint in lower control arm is turned and will knock on chassis, easy fix using adjuster nut adjacent to joint.
After a front end impact, all the rubber bushings in front suspension should be closely inspected or replaced because they split.

Body shops are for paint and panel repair only, in my opinion.
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
Normal, provided that those pictures are on a lift of some type with the front wheels hanging. The coil spacer is excessive, a proper sized coil will stay in contact better when suspension droops.

The grease oozing out of joints is normal for those type joints, they do not come with dust shields. Can be rebuilt also.
The rubber bushing on top of axle is pressed into axle, looks like it was not pressed in far enough.
The joint in lower control arm is turned and will knock on chassis, easy fix using adjuster nut adjacent to joint.
After a front end impact, all the rubber bushings in front suspension should be closely inspected or replaced because they split.

Body shops are for paint and panel repair only, in my opinion.
One last question on the shock issue,I have been told I'm missing the spring retainers as pictured,now honestly I don't know if they were ever there to begin with but unless the body shop missed putting them back in why would the shop the originally put in the lift not put them back in?
Stupid question I know but are they required?
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 10:25 PM
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On the xj the spring retainer is just a tiny clip bolted down right next to the shock outside the spring.
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 05:59 AM
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Your grand cherokee should have the same Dana 30 axle as the XJ and use small retaining clips. Like this image..
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