Originally Posted by mud-dog27

i realize you denoted the dual shock setup but you brought up they fact that other vehicles run em, so i pointed out the fact that they are completely different animals.

and im not even sure how the rear steer statement comes into effect here, yea im sure at one point it was far fetched but its been around for a long time and its been perfected to a pretty damn good point......sort of like suspension on these XJs.

crazy flex on an XJ doesn't require any crazy modification, as i have said im running a 4.5" RC kit with full spring packs, short arms, no front sway and bilstein 5125 in all 4 corners and the only thing preventing me from flexing out anymore is the fact that my 32x11.5s are completely tucked.......all that said at some point of modification you will cross that line where you will lose that comfortable ride and at the same time gain far better offroad performance. It is a balancing act and at some point you will realize that the XJ is a top heavy box on solid axles and IMO at the time ride comfort wasnt as high on the priority list as it is today for jeep.

Originally Posted by Oxen__

you have a link for your shock or who you go t them thrum my local shop can't get emm


i have short arms with a drop bracket. so would it make sense to keep em and buy just coils and shocks? thats what i am going to try and do if it will work out .

i may start in on saving for shocks. who makes your lift? i can check out there site and see if they have any info i can read up on.

Originally Posted by Oxen__

yes if you read the link there is.

Jeep R&D dont make me laugh. land rover and mercedes have R&D and their stock rigs smoke jeeps. the XJ is a cheap *** and cheap made vehical. it virtually hasn't changed much over its production except for engine and trans options oh and they eventual got a d44. don't think they spent much time on the head lights either lol much less the whole rig.

Originally Posted by Oxen__

a lot of ford and chev trucks run multiple shocks on the front. so if you start looking i bet you start noticing it. baja trucks run crazy shock set ups. but i understand crawling is not baja. the reason for the thread is so i can gain a better understanding of how to make the sus preform like i am wanting.

earlier i ruled out going with multi shocks. just wasn't going to work out proper.

Originally Posted by mud-dog27

theres the bilstein 5125s i have however i just ordered them from a local 4x4 shop, you will have to figure out what size you need and given the price of em i would hold off till you get your lift figured out,summits good for more than race parts......ive currently got bout $600 worth of 4.0L upgrades sitting on my shelf waiting to go on
http://www.summitracing.com/search/B...Series-Shocks/

short arms with a drop brackets on a 3" lift?......drop brackets dont get used until 4.5" and up.

i assume you mean short arms out front and shackles in the rear?

as for my lift its the 4.5" rough country kit.....some hate on rough country but honestly aside from the stiffness which never bothered me i never had any issues to complain about, it sat higher than my buddies rubicon express kit that was installed at the same time and it flexes like crazy, and like i said once i went with the bilsteins it rode better than i can ever remember.

Originally Posted by mud-dog27

that is messed up, ive never seen front brackets come with a kit that was under 5-6"...unless the PO just pieced this kit together, those drop brackets will add to the roughness as it increases the distance between the "frame" and the mount allowing more leverage...if that makes sense.

and second not sure if its just the angle of the pic but it looks like your leaf packs as small, like 2 or 3 leafs, which doesnt help once it gets to rocking back and forth.....for comparison my 4" leaf packs a ave 5 leafs.

Originally Posted by mud-dog27

that is messed up, ive never seen front brackets come with a kit that was under 5-6"...unless the PO just pieced this kit together, those drop brackets will add to the roughness as it increases the distance between the "frame" and the mount allowing more leverage...if that makes sense.

and second not sure if its just the angle of the pic but it looks like your leaf packs as small, like 2 or 3 leafs, which doesnt help once it gets to rocking back and forth.....for comparison my 4" leaf packs a ave 5 leafs.

Originally Posted by cdawall

You might want to start over on your R&D. The XJ was prettymuch the starting point of the unibody SUV. It was designed by a Ford designer and there was a ton of R&D that went into it. Hell there was very little change between it the ZJ and WJ almost 2 decades worth of Jeeps. Not to mention the D44 came in the early XJ's and MJ's not the late ones. At the introduction sealed head lights were very common. The XJ was designed in the early 1980's



A lot of 80's trucks did go find me a modern vehicle with more than one shock per corner. Baja trucks for the most part run a single shock per corner. Want to make the suspension perform better? Buy good parts.

Originally Posted by BigC9164

just get rid of the sway bar. it is POINTLESS. just something the dot made jeep do. and save your money on the mounts and all that and just get some bilstien 5125s. BEST SETUP. for under $150 anyways.

Originally Posted by stowe

Here's something else worth the 2 minutes it will take to check. If your rig is bouncing you around and has add a leafs, go look at your shackle angle. If they are straight up and down (like mine after an add a leaf) then that's probably part of your problem.