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Old 11-30-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
Can you torque a loose bolt?
That would be 0 load. The only time that there would not be more load on the drivetrain. Can you drive up an obstacle with 0 load?
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key term here: mechanical advantage
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
In a d30, maybe because of the contact patch, maybe not. Really hard to know 100% without testing.

Although, theoretically 4.10 would have an easier time surviving a crawlbox than a 4.88, atleast teeth wise.
Yup at 4.88 there is only 2 pinion teeth engaged at any time. My thought? Why take that chance? If your going to gear that low, play it safe and get a 44 so you get more teeth contact
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Originally Posted by Demonoid369

Yup at 4.88 there is only 2 pinion teeth engaged at any time. My thought? Why take that chance? If your going to gear that low, play it safe and get a 44 so you get more teeth contact
but there are tons of 4.88 geared 30s out there. And that failure just isn't that common
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Oh I know, but being as that is a essential area of the axle, I would rather take the least chance on it, you can fix u-joints, swap axle shafts stub shafts, drive shafts, etc... But you explode that ring and pinion, your ******
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Originally Posted by ct67_72
That would be 0 load. The only time that there would not be more load on the drivetrain. Can you drive up an obstacle with 0 load?
Obviously... but that's what I mean... long as the tires are turning/spinning there is LESS load... regardless of the amount of force... trying to explain my point but u should be seeing what I'm saying by now..
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I see where this is coming from.
I dunno it's I'm trying to get lower. More driveable or bigger on tires. I have around 4 inches of up travel with my shock setup. 6 down 4 up. I'm thinking of going to 36s. 34s seem small now. And I'm working on my flat belly setup.
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I'm late to the party, but whatevs!

Originally Posted by Luke95
Even with 8 inches of link separation at the axle end and 4.5 on the frame side. I'm worried about the oil pan.
why in the hell would you run anything but the stock link design at stock height? It works great at low heights and wont hit anything.

Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
All about tire size to me... my opinion is Dana 30 to 35's then Dana 60 for 37's and up... diff strength don't matter if the weak links the joints
Im a firm believer housing and outer strength helps keep those u joints together. I still wouldn't run a 44 on anything larger than a 37" tire (in fact I did at one point lol, but it was super polished, didn't break anything either)

I've stuffed 37's in intense undercuts and hammered on it with more success than buddies running 33's on their dana 30's on less intense obstacles. same u joints, full circle clips.
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Sure the 44 is stronger than the 30 in general... your thought could very well be true I've only ran Dana 44's on the rear... guess if my rig came stock or with a 44 already installed I'd go with it till it broke at least.... but for a axle swap ya may well go 60... same money if u play it right...
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great advice man! I'm definitely sticking with the LCOG rig. mine was originally 2.5" lift in the front, and about 2.9" in the rear on 33s. then the front went to full 3" coils. The look is badass, and I feel it performs better on the trails as well.

I was originally bumpstopped in the rear, but then I swapped axles, and have yet to re-install my bumpstops.

currently am overhauling my Jeep and going to a 4" long arm lift, and getting 35s.

here's some pics of the setup

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I'm going to go the LOW COG approach on my next XJ. I just got into wheeling and bought a 2000 XJ with 8" of lift and 35" tires.

Next rig i'm going to go with a 4 or 5" lift and cut and role the finders etc.
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Originally Posted by wcshale
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It's my plan... I hope to not raise the jeep any more than this...

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so do you think shackle relocation boxs and a longer bump stops in the rear will help me get some more flex? didnt feel like the front was close to maxed.




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