LOTS of questions... future setup
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Originally Posted by luckyAD80
Yeah it seems like I'd save more money in the long run if I went with a RC because the RE doesn't have shocks, quicker discos, and other things.
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Originally Posted by Erkmed XJ
Yeah u can get the quick discos with the superflex package but biggest thing is the shocks
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Originally Posted by luckyAD80
I'm gunna put up 4 or so lift kits on here tonight and compare them side by side, adding in the cost of need extras too. Of course with yalls help haha. Any deals go on during Saint Patricks Day?
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One of the most helpful posts yet. What backspacing do you have w stock rims because wouldn't that not work with a 4.5" lift? What are LCAs? I think I'll look into that 3.5" lift for sure. Upgrading to 4.5" will be cheaper than buying the RC 4.5" too. Awesome stuff guys thanks!
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I'm not sure what backspacing they are but I don't see why they wouldn't work with a 4.5" lift. I might have to get wheel spacers eventually, but I don't need them right now if I'm relatively careful with my turning. If you went with a 3.5" kit, you're right, you can always bump it up to 4.5" for really not that much money.
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Okay guys. I've narrowed it down (haha yeah right). First off, I'm still deciding between 15x7 or 15x8 wheels, but I've decided for sure on 31s (not sure what brand or aggressive A/T or M/T yet though). As for lifts, I'm going to list a lot. I have a lot of questions and I am going to number them for better feedback from yall. I will never spend the money to go any higher than a 4.5" lift, so I am looking at 3, 3.5, and 4.5. Please tell me exactly what the lifts are leaving out and what I will need to/should buy because I really don't know every single component involved in doing a suspension lift. Also, if I have vibes, I will be installing an SYE kit to do it right, but I'm only going to order that if and only if I have vibes. I want either full rear leafs for the back, or leafs and shackles. NO AALs for me. I also definitely want quicker discos (so if anyone knows where to buy some cheap if they do not come with the lift, please lemme know)
I will be updating this post A LOT. Thanks again! Here we go!
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1. Rough Country - 3" (cheaper option)
-$509.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
2. Rough Country - 3" (more expensive option)
-$609.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
3. Rough Country - 4.5" (cheaper option)
-$680.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
4. Rough Country - 4.5" (more expensive option)
-$829.95
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-comes with quicker discos!
-Shipping: NOT free
5. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (cheaper option)
-$459.99 (with deal savings)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Steering Stabilizer: $??? (can I use Rough Country's??)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
6. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (more expensive option)
-$635.99 (with savings deal)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
7. Rusty's - 3"
-$438.00
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
8. Rusty's - 4.5"
-$669.00 (w/ full rear leafs) OR $709.00 (w/ 3.5" leafs and shackles) - FIXED control arms
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Adjustable Front Lower Control Arms:$60 (forged rubber end) OR $80 (forged flex end)
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
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Questions:
1. Can someone PLEASE help me figure out the price differences in the lifts of the SAME BRAND and SAME HEIGHT?
2. If I install an SYE kit on a 3 or 3.5" and upgrade later to a 4.5", will any modifications need to be done?
3. If I do not install the Tcase that comes with some of them, and have vibes, will I be okay riding for a few weeks until SYE arrives?
4. Should I definitely get adjustable control arms, and if so, help me identify if I am getting that with each lift please?
5. Can I mix parts form different brands?
6. Anyone know of some good cheap quick discos?
I will be updating this post A LOT. Thanks again! Here we go!
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1. Rough Country - 3" (cheaper option)
-$509.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
2. Rough Country - 3" (more expensive option)
-$609.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
3. Rough Country - 4.5" (cheaper option)
-$680.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
4. Rough Country - 4.5" (more expensive option)
-$829.95
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-comes with quicker discos!
-Shipping: NOT free
5. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (cheaper option)
-$459.99 (with deal savings)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Steering Stabilizer: $??? (can I use Rough Country's??)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
6. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (more expensive option)
-$635.99 (with savings deal)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
7. Rusty's - 3"
-$438.00
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
8. Rusty's - 4.5"
-$669.00 (w/ full rear leafs) OR $709.00 (w/ 3.5" leafs and shackles) - FIXED control arms
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Adjustable Front Lower Control Arms:$60 (forged rubber end) OR $80 (forged flex end)
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
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Questions:
1. Can someone PLEASE help me figure out the price differences in the lifts of the SAME BRAND and SAME HEIGHT?
2. If I install an SYE kit on a 3 or 3.5" and upgrade later to a 4.5", will any modifications need to be done?
3. If I do not install the Tcase that comes with some of them, and have vibes, will I be okay riding for a few weeks until SYE arrives?
4. Should I definitely get adjustable control arms, and if so, help me identify if I am getting that with each lift please?
5. Can I mix parts form different brands?
6. Anyone know of some good cheap quick discos?
Last edited by luckyAD80; Mar 8, 2012 at 06:45 PM.
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From: Cumming/Dahlonega, Georgia
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
1. Rough Country - 3" (cheaper option)
-$509.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
JUST shocks and coil springs, and leaf springs.
2. Rough Country - 3" (more expensive option)
-$609.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
Shocks, coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, and bumpstops.
3. Rough Country - 4.5" (cheaper option)
-$680.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
Shocks, coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, bumpstops, sway bar links (not disconnects), and shackles.
4. Rough Country - 4.5" (more expensive option)
-$829.95
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-comes with quicker discos!
-Shipping: NOT free
Shocks, coil springs, leaf springs, adjustable LCA's and UCA's, adjustable track bar, quick disconnects, extended brake lines.
5. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (cheaper option)
-$459.99 (with deal savings)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Steering Stabilizer: $??? (can I use Rough Country's??)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
Coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, extended brake line for the rear, sway bar end links.
6. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (more expensive option)
-$635.99 (with savings deal)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
Coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, quick disconnects, bumpstops, extended brake line for the rear.
7. Rusty's - 3"
-$438.00
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
8. Rusty's - 4.5"
-$669.00 (w/ full rear leafs) OR $709.00 (w/ 3.5" leafs and shackles) - FIXED control arms
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Adjustable Front Lower Control Arms:$60 (forged rubber end) OR $80 (forged flex end)
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
Screw Rusty's. Not really, but a ton of people don't like they're stuff.
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Questions:
1. Can someone PLEASE help me figure out the price differences in the lifts of the SAME BRAND and SAME HEIGHT?
2. If I install an SYE kit on a 3 or 3.5" and upgrade later to a 4.5", will any modifications need to be done?
3. If I do not install the Tcase that comes with some of them, and have vibes, will I be okay riding for a few weeks until SYE arrives?
4. Should I definitely get adjustable control arms, and if so, help me identify if I am getting that with each lift please?
5. Can I mix parts form different brands?
6. Anyone know of some good cheap quick discos?
-$509.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
JUST shocks and coil springs, and leaf springs.
2. Rough Country - 3" (more expensive option)
-$609.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
Shocks, coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, and bumpstops.
3. Rough Country - 4.5" (cheaper option)
-$680.95 w/ Rear Leafs
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-Shipping: NOT free
Shocks, coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, bumpstops, sway bar links (not disconnects), and shackles.
4. Rough Country - 4.5" (more expensive option)
-$829.95
-Steering Stabilizer - $28.95
-comes with quicker discos!
-Shipping: NOT free
Shocks, coil springs, leaf springs, adjustable LCA's and UCA's, adjustable track bar, quick disconnects, extended brake lines.
5. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (cheaper option)
-$459.99 (with deal savings)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Steering Stabilizer: $??? (can I use Rough Country's??)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
Coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, extended brake line for the rear, sway bar end links.
6. Rubicon Express - 3.5" (more expensive option)
-$635.99 (with savings deal)
-need RE1225 U-bolts: $??? (help me out)
-Shipping: FREE
-NO shocks: $???
Coil springs, leaf springs, fixed LCA's, quick disconnects, bumpstops, extended brake line for the rear.
7. Rusty's - 3"
-$438.00
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
8. Rusty's - 4.5"
-$669.00 (w/ full rear leafs) OR $709.00 (w/ 3.5" leafs and shackles) - FIXED control arms
-Steering Stabilizer: $35.00
-Adjustable Front Lower Control Arms:$60 (forged rubber end) OR $80 (forged flex end)
-Shipping: RIDICULOUS
Screw Rusty's. Not really, but a ton of people don't like they're stuff.
---
Questions:
1. Can someone PLEASE help me figure out the price differences in the lifts of the SAME BRAND and SAME HEIGHT?
2. If I install an SYE kit on a 3 or 3.5" and upgrade later to a 4.5", will any modifications need to be done?
3. If I do not install the Tcase that comes with some of them, and have vibes, will I be okay riding for a few weeks until SYE arrives?
4. Should I definitely get adjustable control arms, and if so, help me identify if I am getting that with each lift please?
5. Can I mix parts form different brands?
6. Anyone know of some good cheap quick discos?
If you install an SYE at 3/3.5" and you move up, no modification necessary to the best of my knowledge.
Just install the T-case drop. Takes 20 minutes tops.
Adjustable control arms are really up to you. I've got fixed, but some people like to REALLY dial in their axle.
Yes, you can mix different brands.
Whatever company you buy from, make sure you get the right u-bolts for your axle. Steering stabilizers are completely universal, so just go with whichever one you want.
Last edited by bzauche; Mar 8, 2012 at 07:12 PM.
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For tires, I dont think you can go wrong with the Goodyear MTRs with kevlar. They have great traction off road, clear out well, pretty quite, and dont move around much on the road. Plus with the kevlar they are almost puncture proof
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I'm most likely going to go with one of the Rubicon Express lifts. Can someone please click those links and tell me
A) how different they are
B) what I'll need to buy
A) how different they are
B) what I'll need to buy
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@Bzauche: (okay just realized your build thread has my favorite pictures ever! great photography man, i'm thinking of doing that in college too)
First off, yeah, forget Rusty's... just threw them up there for comparison... that shipping fee is a huge PITA. I hate to ask you to do even more, but can you compare both 3.5" RE lifts I posted with the Rough Country 4.5" ones?
I'd like your opinion here - what all would each lift need to make it COMPLETE, and possibly prices so that I can see which one really ends up being cheaper. Thanks so much.
First off, yeah, forget Rusty's... just threw them up there for comparison... that shipping fee is a huge PITA. I hate to ask you to do even more, but can you compare both 3.5" RE lifts I posted with the Rough Country 4.5" ones?
I'd like your opinion here - what all would each lift need to make it COMPLETE, and possibly prices so that I can see which one really ends up being cheaper. Thanks so much.
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No problem!
Thanks for the compliments! Hopefully I'll have some updates in the next few days because I will be installing my new LCA's, double shear track bar, as well as servicing both of my differentials, throttle body, and transfer case!
Yes, I could compare them, but not tonight. Honestly, if you want the most complete kit, for a good price, the more expensive Rough Country 4.5" kit looks like it's the best fit. It has an upgraded track bar, brake lines, and UCA's; items which none of the other kits come with. Keep in mind, too, that the Rough Country kit comes with shocks. If you went with a Rubicon Express kit, you'd have to spend more money (probably at least $200 if you want halfway decent shocks). The one thing that the more expensive RC kit doesn't come with is a steering stabilizer, but you can grab one of those for under $50. Hope that helps!
@Bzauche: (okay just realized your build thread has my favorite pictures ever! great photography man, i'm thinking of doing that in college too)
First off, yeah, forget Rusty's... just threw them up there for comparison... that shipping fee is a huge PITA. I hate to ask you to do even more, but can you compare both 3.5" RE lifts I posted with the Rough Country 4.5" ones?
I'd like your opinion here - what all would each lift need to make it COMPLETE, and possibly prices so that I can see which one really ends up being cheaper. Thanks so much.
First off, yeah, forget Rusty's... just threw them up there for comparison... that shipping fee is a huge PITA. I hate to ask you to do even more, but can you compare both 3.5" RE lifts I posted with the Rough Country 4.5" ones?
I'd like your opinion here - what all would each lift need to make it COMPLETE, and possibly prices so that I can see which one really ends up being cheaper. Thanks so much.
Yes, I could compare them, but not tonight. Honestly, if you want the most complete kit, for a good price, the more expensive Rough Country 4.5" kit looks like it's the best fit. It has an upgraded track bar, brake lines, and UCA's; items which none of the other kits come with. Keep in mind, too, that the Rough Country kit comes with shocks. If you went with a Rubicon Express kit, you'd have to spend more money (probably at least $200 if you want halfway decent shocks). The one thing that the more expensive RC kit doesn't come with is a steering stabilizer, but you can grab one of those for under $50. Hope that helps!
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No problem!
Thanks for the compliments! Hopefully I'll have some updates in the next few days because I will be installing my new LCA's, double shear track bar, as well as servicing both of my differentials, throttle body, and transfer case!
Yes, I could compare them, but not tonight. Honestly, if you want the most complete kit, for a good price, the more expensive Rough Country 4.5" kit looks like it's the best fit. It has an upgraded track bar, brake lines, and UCA's; items which none of the other kits come with. Keep in mind, too, that the Rough Country kit comes with shocks. If you went with a Rubicon Express kit, you'd have to spend more money (probably at least $200 if you want halfway decent shocks). The one thing that the more expensive RC kit doesn't come with is a steering stabilizer, but you can grab one of those for under $50. Hope that helps!
I just did some crazy long research comparisons (well for me at least) on the cheaper RE compared to the more expensive RC. I'll share em with you soon but I need to sleep, and tomorrow and saturday will be filled with SAT studying and testing-woohoo! So I will most likely post Saturday night with my hopefully final two choices and pros and cons for yall to help me with. Thanks!


