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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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What is the best long arm design? Is three link or four link better? Which is the most accurate effective way to diy?

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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radius is easiest to diy
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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radius is easiest and flexes more than enough. im more than happy with mine

3 link has more flex than radius arms,

4 link is almost impossible to fit under the front AND get good geometry out of it BUT you dont have a trac bar and as many bump steer issues as the other set ups.

iirc terraflex is coming out with a front 4 link kit and when they do im going to copy it and build my own since i cant seem to find one of them there money trees
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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4 link is the best in an ideal world as it doesnt need a track bar. Best option as far as bang for buck though is a LA kit similar to Staangs Fab or IROs
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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go too fab threads my longarm build....(not for my design but for the advice i have been given) BTW best thing i ever did.. should be on the first page still
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sandaddik2

4 link is almost impossible to fit under the front AND get good geometry out of it BUT you dont have a trac bar and as many bump steer issues as the other set ups.
As long as you triangulate atleast the uppers. A standard 4 link that say uses the stock axle mount locations will need a track bar
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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I have heard nothing but good things about this kit
Poly Performance

and its 3-link cousin
linky

It's the one I'm planning on getting when I finally upgrade.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sandaddik2
radius is easiest and flexes more than enough. im more than happy with mine

3 link has more flex than radius arms,

4 link is almost impossible to fit under the front AND get good geometry out of it BUT you dont have a trac bar and as many bump steer issues as the other set ups.

iirc terraflex is coming out with a front 4 link kit and when they do im going to copy it and build my own since i cant seem to find one of them there money trees
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4 link is the best in an ideal world as it doesnt need a track bar. Best option as far as bang for buck though is a LA kit similar to Staangs Fab or IROs

your both wrong in a sense about the 4-link setup..... look at the front of ANY Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, or TJ/JK Wrangler........ they all have a 4 link style setup and have you ever driven one without a track bar on the factory suspension???? not a fun ride lol

but back to the topic at hand, my 10" LA kit is still an after market 4-link style, after hitting the trails in my good buddies 10" lifted XJ with a radius arm front this summer i'm changing mine over.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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they are not talking about the OEM 4 link they are talking about a true double triangulated 4 link set up. Done right no need for a trac bar as the upper and lower links locate the axle and allow for full travel with out binding on the joints.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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how do you get the measurements right on radius arms as far as angles for the links go?

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by That Jeep Guy XJMJ
your both wrong in a sense about the 4-link setup..... look at the front of ANY Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, or TJ/JK Wrangler........ they all have a 4 link style setup and have you ever driven one without a track bar on the factory suspension???? not a fun ride lol

but back to the topic at hand, my 10" LA kit is still an after market 4-link style, after hitting the trails in my good buddies 10" lifted XJ with a radius arm front this summer i'm changing mine over.
Talking about triangulated 4link not the stock garbage.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
Talking about triangulated 4link not the stock garbage.
lol i know what you guys meant, i was just messing with ya, triangulated 4-links are what i think are the best way to go.... much more rigidity and solid and smooth travel, but as for what i personally like from my closest friends experiences with their setups, i'm going to run the radius arms...

as for the measurements i couldn't explain it to you, i haven't set up a radius setup YET, but if your still needing help with it this summer i can diagram out how we setup mine
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by That Jeep Guy XJMJ
lol i know what you guys meant, i was just messing with ya, triangulated 4-links are what i think are the best way to go.... much more rigidity and solid and smooth travel, but as for what i personally like from my closest friends experiences with their setups, i'm going to run the radius arms...

as for the measurements i couldn't explain it to you, i haven't set up a radius setup YET, but if your still needing help with it this summer i can diagram out how we setup mine
Yeah I'm just going with the basic LA setup from Staangs. I dont mind fabbing my own stuff but I have no desire to screw around with that stuff. Not when I know 100% Staangs works, is life time warrantied and built like a tank

Plus its really not that much money.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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um..not to be a ***** but i got questioned alot on my design and after looking at the staangs LA add on kit i'm not to keen on a few things 1. it only bolt to the stock crossmember bolts and they are only weldnuts in sheet metal. 2.the crossmember is multiple pieces with bolts holding them together i would at least weld it all together.3 if an adjustable radius arm (basically what that is) holds together then i'm doing that because that's a hell of alot easier then my plan.. just saying
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Staang's looks like a Clayton knock off IMO I'd rather run claytons kit my self (same joints though claytons has a better upper link on theirs)
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