lockers???
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Just my opinion but if you are asking if lockers are worth getting you probably haven't been in a situation that that you really need lockers and the answer would be no they are not worth getting. Once you get stuck with open diffs a few times you will be wanting to put lockers in as soon as possible. So far as what kind to buy it really depends on what your budget is and if your jeep is a dd or not. Air lockers are the best way to go as you can engage and disengage them with the flip of a switch. This means open diffs on the road for good road manor and locked on the trail. They are also the most expensive kind. If you are on a budget and don't mind a little bit of noise you can go with lunchbox style lockers. These lock when power is applied to the wheels, which can be noisy, but they are also the cheapest.
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Air lockers are the best way to go as you can engage and disengage them with the flip of a switch. This means open diffs on the road for good road manor and locked on the trail. They are also the most expensive kind. If you are on a budget and don't mind a little bit of noise you can go with lunchbox style lockers. These lock when power is applied to the wheels, which can be noisy, but they are also the cheapest.
its not just air lockers that are selectable. There are OX(cable based) and Electric lockers aswell.
Personally I prefer the OX because if cables break or whatever you can toss a screw(provided) into the fitting and it'll force the diff locked the same way as if it was still selectable. Gets you out of a tight situation when your air hoses have been mangled for some reason.
My type of wheeling requires eliminating weak links, and the air lines/pump required for ARB air lockers represent a weak link to me.
Thats just my 2 cents.
But keep in mind, there are several manufacturers of selectable lockers, not just the ARB air locker.
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While I agree with the first part that if you have to ask, then you dont need them yet, I do disagree with this part.
its not just air lockers that are selectable. There are OX(cable based) and Electric lockers aswell.
Personally I prefer the OX because if cables break or whatever you can toss a screw(provided) into the fitting and it'll force the diff locked the same way as if it was still selectable. Gets you out of a tight situation when your air hoses have been mangled for some reason.
My type of wheeling requires eliminating weak links, and the air lines/pump required for ARB air lockers represent a weak link to me.
Thats just my 2 cents.
But keep in mind, there are several manufacturers of selectable lockers, not just the ARB air locker.
its not just air lockers that are selectable. There are OX(cable based) and Electric lockers aswell.
Personally I prefer the OX because if cables break or whatever you can toss a screw(provided) into the fitting and it'll force the diff locked the same way as if it was still selectable. Gets you out of a tight situation when your air hoses have been mangled for some reason.
My type of wheeling requires eliminating weak links, and the air lines/pump required for ARB air lockers represent a weak link to me.
Thats just my 2 cents.
But keep in mind, there are several manufacturers of selectable lockers, not just the ARB air locker.
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While I agree with the first part that if you have to ask, then you dont need them yet, I do disagree with this part.
its not just air lockers that are selectable. There are OX(cable based) and Electric lockers aswell.
Personally I prefer the OX because if cables break or whatever you can toss a screw(provided) into the fitting and it'll force the diff locked the same way as if it was still selectable. Gets you out of a tight situation when your air hoses have been mangled for some reason.
My type of wheeling requires eliminating weak links, and the air lines/pump required for ARB air lockers represent a weak link to me.
Thats just my 2 cents.
But keep in mind, there are several manufacturers of selectable lockers, not just the ARB air locker.
its not just air lockers that are selectable. There are OX(cable based) and Electric lockers aswell.
Personally I prefer the OX because if cables break or whatever you can toss a screw(provided) into the fitting and it'll force the diff locked the same way as if it was still selectable. Gets you out of a tight situation when your air hoses have been mangled for some reason.
My type of wheeling requires eliminating weak links, and the air lines/pump required for ARB air lockers represent a weak link to me.
Thats just my 2 cents.
But keep in mind, there are several manufacturers of selectable lockers, not just the ARB air locker.
#7
They're worth getting if you put the Jeep in places where you need the extra traction. I did a lot with open diffs in mine, but there were obstacles I couldn't get over open, so I Lincoln locked my rear axle. Made a huge difference offroad, well worth it. As soon as I can, I'm putting a Lock Rite locker in the front too, it will only make the Jeep more capable.
If most of your driving is on the street and you don't wheel it hard though, open diffs are fine. You'd know it if lockers would be worth getting, since you're asking, you probably don't need them.
If most of your driving is on the street and you don't wheel it hard though, open diffs are fine. You'd know it if lockers would be worth getting, since you're asking, you probably don't need them.
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They're worth getting if you put the Jeep in places where you need the extra traction. I did a lot with open diffs in mine, but there were obstacles I couldn't get over open, so I Lincoln locked my rear axle. Made a huge difference offroad, well worth it. As soon as I can, I'm putting a Lock Rite locker in the front too, it will only make the Jeep more capable.
If most of your driving is on the street and you don't wheel it hard though, open diffs are fine. You'd know it if lockers would be worth getting, since you're asking, you probably don't need them.
If most of your driving is on the street and you don't wheel it hard though, open diffs are fine. You'd know it if lockers would be worth getting, since you're asking, you probably don't need them.
I am always an advocate of suspension over lockers. A. its cheaper, B. It should be done anyways.
Lockers? Yea they will take you places. But if you have never ran into a situation where you needed them, do you really need them?
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if you're having to use a lot of skinny pedal to get over obstacles or your spinning tires when its unnecessary, I say it's time for a front locker. I'd rather be walking over rocks than trying to bounce over them
spin spin SUDDEN TRACTION = no good
or if you're not having that sort of trouble, worry about lockers later
spin spin SUDDEN TRACTION = no good
or if you're not having that sort of trouble, worry about lockers later
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if you're having to use a lot of skinny pedal to get over obstacles or your spinning tires when its unnecessary, I say it's time for a front locker. I'd rather be walking over rocks than trying to bounce over them
spin spin SUDDEN TRACTION = no good
or if you're not having that sort of trouble, worry about lockers later
spin spin SUDDEN TRACTION = no good
or if you're not having that sort of trouble, worry about lockers later
Especially if you aren't geared enough and your tires size and weight will play into this too.
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YouTube "OX Locker Review" - I am a differential guy myself and after years of using, abusing, installing and repairing.... the integrated air shift OX is by far the best selectable locker out there. The air is confined to the cover via pushlock fitting and does not require drilling into the housing or the use of a seal housing with o rings or the copper tube with the bulk head fitting (ARB & ZIP). If something was to fail from the air source (whatever you want that is 85 psi) then you simply insert the "OX drive away lock"....if you need it. The OX will default to "open" but if you need a locked diff to get out of somewhere, the option is there manually.
The install is much easier as its just a normal carrier install.
USA Made 100%
Includes a nodular iron cover
No disassembly of the entire axle to an air leak (again...air only enters the cover)
While the cable seems like a great idea..... they aren't. They rust, stretch, require constant adjustment and they have a lot of resistance so it takes the 4 internal springs in the OX much longer to push everything back so it can unlock. With air there is no resistance at all the second the air is bled out. This results in automatic unlocking. That's good when you don't have 10-100 feet to allow the OX to unlock. The cable design just isn't the way to go despite what common sense tells you.
Watch the YOUTUBE video I did.
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The install is much easier as its just a normal carrier install.
USA Made 100%
Includes a nodular iron cover
No disassembly of the entire axle to an air leak (again...air only enters the cover)
While the cable seems like a great idea..... they aren't. They rust, stretch, require constant adjustment and they have a lot of resistance so it takes the 4 internal springs in the OX much longer to push everything back so it can unlock. With air there is no resistance at all the second the air is bled out. This results in automatic unlocking. That's good when you don't have 10-100 feet to allow the OX to unlock. The cable design just isn't the way to go despite what common sense tells you.
Watch the YOUTUBE video I did.
Jeff
sales@rockridge4wd.com
www.rockridge4wd.com
www.facebook.com/rockridge4wd. - GO LIKE OUR PAGE PLEASE
#12
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Wish I had lockers, might have not gotten stuck 15 minutes before a storm surge.
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The next day only the roof rack was visible. And it had turned 180 degrees. The back end floated and pivoted around to face the storm. If I had left it in Neutral it might of washed in.
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