I have no issues with a 10.50 on a 8" wheel I wheel at 10psi and can get quite offcamber and never popped a bead

 

Hmmm.... good to know

 

No, your average "kit" is a 3 link system, by me saying four link, i was hinting at him looking into some higher $ system

And I also run at 10 both when I had stock tires and now with my duratracs. However I did pop a bead on my stock tires.

 

Lock it.

 

Nope. The cheaper long arm rigs are radius arms. The more expensive ones are 3 link, 4 link, and triangulated 4 link.

 

Locking is by far more bang for your buck.

 

Yep you go further with traction then without

 

Nope there are some radius arm setups that are more expensive then some 3 and 4 link setups. True story.

 

IMHO a properly setup 3" lift with lockers and 31x10.5's will run circles around a 4 1/2" lift on 33".

When I first bought my XJ it had a 3" Half-A**ed 3" lift, 8" wheels on it and 31.5's the fenders had been trimmed somewhat. I bought a full spring pack 3" lift, shocks, disconnects, track bar, new bumpers along with 33x12:50x15" tires (5).

I thought it did OK on the trails and only winched myself out about half a dozen times in 6 months. Then I regeared from the 3.55's to 4.56's with lockers front and rear. It is hard to tell someone the difference till they them in their XJ's and see for themselves.

Buy the lockers.

 

Ordered Lokka's front and rear. Who here has install a lunchbox in there dana 30 with 3.55's without pulling the carrier? I'm interested in knowing if you thought it was easier in the long run or if you would have pulled the carrier if you had know it would be that much of a PITA. Im not really afraid to grind a tooth or maybe two if it doesnt seem to invasive.

 

You won't need to grind teeth until the 4:10-4.88 range

 

You'd have to grind a couple teeth (with any ratio) to install a lunchbox with the carrier still installed because the crosspin wont slide past the ring gear; and therefore cant be removed.

Personally I say just pull the carrier out.. really doesnt take very long to do.
On the other hand, grinding a couple teeth probably wont weaken it much, barely if even at all.
On the other OTHER hand, if you pull the carrier, that would be a great oppurtunity to replace or upgrade your ujoints while the axleshafts are out because lockers will blow sh***y ujoints apart quickly, which will then destroy the ears on your axleshafts.

Also, I definitely say lockers > lift. Within the first week of getting my 2nd XJ, I locked the front & rear on 30's with no lift. It went places my last XJ (3" on 31's, open/open) wouldnt even dream of going. Absolutely amazing the difference lockers make.

 

thanks for the info. I think this is all going to hang on if I can get the roll pin out with the carrier in and if I can manage to find a side that just needs grinding of the edge of one tooth. I have a brand new u joint drivers side and the passenger side cant be more than a couple years old.

 

Seriously, pull the carrier on the D30. It's easier to do the install on the bench and it'll save you the frustration of trying to do it in the axle. You need to pull the shafts anyway. Pop the bearing caps and make sure they go back on in the same position. Use a big old pry bar with a rag to get the carrier out. It's not hard.

 

Thanks for the info guys. I am super excited to get these installed.