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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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Yeah, I was talking about the IRO HnT. http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch..._Code=IR-X_HNT

I've been looking for SYE options because I'll need it this summer.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Demolition_x
This is true but there drive shaft will not work on a ax-15 trans with a 8.25.
Is it b/c the ax-15 is shorter? What's up with this?

Originally Posted by rwdawg2
Did you hear that s14unimog. Might want to look into that.
yeah yeah... I had heard something about this by IRO's site says...

"Fits vehicles that have the AX-5/AX-15 manual trans. A custom shaft could be necessary in these vehicles."

I was under the impression that might just apply to the big guys though... Maybe Demolition_x can comment
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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I have the advanced adapters kit and it works great for me... a while back i let some buddies borrow my jeep and they broke the drive shaft (from tomwoods) and messed up the yoke on the sye so i called advanced adapters and they sent me a new one... with the seal and bolt and all for 20 bucks... in anycase its a complete kit and has served me well
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Yes a ax-15 is shorter. Their stock drive shaft is in the 30-31 inch range. Most people running a ax-15/8.25 combo need longer by an inch or so. There are a few ZJ shafts that work in this application.

I am under the impression if you cut the shaft longer you could probably get away with the one supplied by IRO.

The best way to do any drive shaft figuring out is to complete the sye or hnt and then measure yoke to yoke but many of the DD's can't afford to that unless they wanna run their XJ honda style (Front Wheel drive by removing the rear drive shaft).
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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A true SYE is always going to be stronger than a HnT. HnT's work well, and can be run off road pretty hard, but it's true that they're not as strong as a compelte SYE kit. They're not weak, I've seen plenty take some abuse, so if your rig is a dd/weekend offroader, you should be fine with the HnT. If you get the SYE from Crown, just be sure to get new u-joints for the front shaft you pull from the JY (which of course drives the price up about $50 for 3 high quality u-joints).

Ax5/15's will need a longer shaft to go with a SYE (HnT or true SYE) as the transmission is shorter than the aw4.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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Thanks for all the useful information, I'll take into consideration.

I'm rolling more towards the HacknTap because it's a bargain and I don't go offroading as much, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. If they hold up strong then I'm most likely going to take that option
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Old Mar 24, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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well good luck with it. Post some pictures when you get it installed. I may go with a STE kit for my AX15. Glad I looked in on this thread.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by s14unimog
well good luck with it. Post some pictures when you get it installed. I may go with a STE kit for my AX15. Glad I looked in on this thread.
Here you go!
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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I'm running a 5in lift with stock shafts and no SYE, been on for 2 years now and still good. I do have a 1in tc drop and thats it. Thats on a 96 Country.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkstar
Here you go!
Very nice!! Did you end up needing an SYE, or did you just use a tcase drop, or nothing?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by no rdplz
Most 97-01 XJ's with 4.5" lifts need at least a 1" TC drop.

actually it is 1996+ as 1996 was the first year for the new t case
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
actually it is 1996+ as 1996 was the first year for the new t case
I thought it was cuz of the LP D30, not the tcase
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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I had to get a sye on my 99 with just a 3" lift. But once I did it it was a world of difference!!
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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thread jack but,

let me get this straight.... if i lift my xj 4.5 (looking at a zone offroad aal kit) i can drive temporarily without a drive shaft and sye????

also, is this a good tcase drop??: http://zoneoffroad.com/product?ki=267&gr=-1

haha and just to be sure.... are those^ the only things i need to get along with a 4.5'' lift to complete it and ake it safe? (besides brake lines)
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IZAREBL
thread jack but,

let me get this straight.... if i lift my xj 4.5 (looking at a zone offroad aal kit) i can drive temporarily without a drive shaft and sye????

also, is this a good tcase drop??: http://zoneoffroad.com/product?ki=267&gr=-1

haha and just to be sure.... are those^ the only things i need to get along with a 4.5'' lift to complete it and ake it safe? (besides brake lines)
Yea, you should be good with that. Its the same lift I'm getting. It's just that an SYE is the "appropriate" way of doing it
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