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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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How high of a lift could you go before it would b good to upgrade steering?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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if you wheel or run a larger that stock tire its a safe idea to go with a stronger steering setup regardless of height. But generally people start having issues with stock steering around 4.5" or so. Some people run higher, and say its fine, I value my life more than that.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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I say after 2 inches you need an adjustable trac-bar.

After 3 inches you need upgraded steering.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Ok well right now im running a 31 with 3" lift but i thought bout goin for a 4 inch.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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I'm at 4.5" with stock steering and an IRO track bar. It's sketchy to say the least. I had 33's on for a little bit and that was terrible
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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I'm running 6.5" of lift with a Ironman Adjustable Double Shear TracBar and a ZJ Tierod for an upgrade over stock. I run 33x12.50's and have never had a problem with steering, it's just as Tight and easy to steer as it was when it was stock height.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Thread is making my rethink putting off a beefy toe rod. Right now I'm at 3", 245/75/16 M/T's, IRO double shear track bar, M.O.R.E. steering box brace, but stock tie rod and drag link. I know having a beefy tie rod is better for the trail, but would it help my actual steering performance as well?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Thread is making my rethink putting off a beefy toe rod. Right now I'm at 3", 245/75/16 M/T's, IRO double shear track bar, M.O.R.E. steering box brace, but stock tie rod and drag link. I know having a beefy tie rod is better for the trail, but would it help my actual steering performance as well?
Yes, the stock tie rod is a pretty lame. Grab a v8 grand tie rod from the junk yard and put some new ends on it. Much larger in diameter and its solid.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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4.5in lift with 33s. With stock track bar the ride was terrible. Yeah I used to say it was decent but after installing an adjustable double shear trackbar I realized how crappy it was before. I have a larger tierod and all is good now. However I will be getting crossover steering at one point. Just a few things that need to come before that for me.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BNJeepsta
Yes, the stock tie rod is a pretty lame. Grab a v8 grand tie rod from the junk yard and put some new ends on it. Much larger in diameter and its solid.
Would this leave me better off than a wheel to wheel tie rod setup like Serious' kit? I'm only at 3" and 31's, so I feel like I shouldn't need to spend $300 on steering.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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Would this leave me better off than a wheel to wheel tie rod setup like Serious' kit? I'm only at 3" and 31's, so I feel like I shouldn't need to spend $300 on steering.
At 3" and 31's a v8 GC tie rod is fine. The serious setup is great but not necessary for a small lift and tires.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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I say just go straight to full hydraulic. You'll be there eventually anyways.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 03:27 PM
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I say just go straight to full hydraulic. You'll be there eventually anyways.
Lol might as well 4 link the rear too. Maybe even a hybrid cage and tons.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
I say just go straight to full hydraulic. You'll be there eventually anyways.
Originally Posted by BNJeepsta
Lol might as well 4 link the rear too. Maybe even a hybrid cage and tons.
Haha, not while I'm in college and it's still my DD. Once I graduate, get a real job and a gas-sipper, then we'll see.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Ok gents i picked up a zj tie rod set up to go on my 2000 sport...what do i need to get new??
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