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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Just seal the whole damn Jeep up in a vacuum sealed baggie.

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Do you think if I used this I could fit 44's on my 2" bb without trimming?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Most likely.

On a Dana 30.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Well im gonna look into it more this was just to see ppls opinions, something fun to see different ideas but got ruined by immature ppl
obviously most people rarely get off the couch let alone hit water thats over the hood.

And yes going over the hood with water and keeping the jeep reliable is hard core wheeling.

Like others have said die electric grease all your connections. Over time these connector gaskets can go bad.

Obviously seal up the intake with a snorkel of sorts. Bench test it all before actually going under.

Its a good idea to seal up the fuse boxes and computer.

The more time you spend sealing properly your jeep the more certain you will be to cross water without damage.

Generally speaking all jeeps will run under water as long as the intake has good air. But I would take extra precaution and double check everything.

If you do swamp the jeep and suck in water your jeep is not dead. And if treated quickly won't hurt the motor at all.

Good luck and have fun.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Yeah, you could always replace the bent rod later.

How exactly do you bench test first? Just curious.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Yeah, you could always replace the bent rod later.

How exactly do you bench test first? Just curious.

If you bend a rod its your own fault, and you probably should not do water crossings.

Bench test as in test your snorkel system out for leaks before you actually put it in water.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bruni86xj
What all do I need to waterproof the xj to go underwater just in case, I plan on moving to Texas and theres lots of rivers on there trails so whats tthe best way to do so?? If you have smarta** comments dont bother posting.
I don't know if mine is 'waterproof' but at least I'm preparing to cross some water path with more confidence.

1) Installed an ARB Safari snorkel
2) Replaced the sparks for new ones.
3) Replaced the distribitutor cap and rotor for new ones.
4) Installed MSD wires (try that engine don't missfire or missfire ocassionally).
5) Now I'm checking all the o2 sensors and exhaust to see if there is some leak.
6) Try to cross at constant speed. Too fast can do waves that pass you over.
7) Leave others cross first and in case it's too deep: turn the engine off and cross with a winch or strap.

I use to wheel with some Aquaman-like guys in diesel rigs that like the water too much:


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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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I don't know if mine is 'waterproof' but at least I'm preparing to cross some water path with more confidence.

1) Installed an ARB Safari snorkel
2) Replaced the sparks for new ones.
3) Replaced the distribitutor cap and rotor for new ones.
4) Installed MSD wires (try that engine don't missfire or missfire ocassionally).
5) Now I'm checking all the o2 sensors and exhaust to see if there is some leak.
6) Try to cross at constant speed. Too fast can do waves that pass you over.
7) Leave others cross first and in case it's too deep: turn the engine off and cross with a winch or strap.

I use to wheel with some Aquaman-like guys in diesel rigs that like the water too much:


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Great videos!! In my opinion you don't have a well set up rig if you can't cross water.

Exactly why all my idiotic carpet is coming out. Shoot I don't drive barefoot anyways!


One thing people don't realize, and that is water will not foul a spark plug. So no need to carry an extra set.

I have 2000 xj so I don't have to worry about the cap. Just mainly the computer and intake.

Also something to note. Make certain your transmission/transfer case, and differential vent hoses are connected and routed properly.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Here is one of my favorite videos that got me back into 4x4

http://youtu.be/GXGiNRNWZX4

These boys know adverse conditions.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:02 PM
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my first engine didnt last more than a month do to the stock air box
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
If you bend a rod its your own fault, and you probably should not do water crossings.

Bench test as in test your snorkel system out for leaks before you actually put it in water.

So, what you're saying is that you have an amazing knack for not bending piston rods?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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A lot of good tips in the thread for waterfasting your ride.
If you are planning for water consider removing the belt fan and install a switchable electric. The fan can have a hell of a party under the hood when your in deep, possibly deform a bland and cut the rad. You can switch off a controllable electric just before the cross.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
So, what you're saying is that you have an amazing knack for not bending piston rods?



Do you think they magically bend when water hits them?

You drive like a fool and keep on trying to go when your motor is dead and you may have a slim chance of bending a rod. slim. lucky for us bending rods is not common with an xj or any motor under 500hp filled with water.

You just don't " bend rods" Your motor only takes in as much as it can suck through the intake. Once it sucks enough water per fuel molecule it kills the motor because water wont burn.

Once your motor is dead you don't throw battery cables on it and start cranking it. You remove the plugs and pump out the water first before anything.

Not saying there is not an exception to the rule but it would be a very rare case. Or some body bent a rod and assumed it was while the truck was going through the water crossing.

I have seen it time and time again. Most people drown out, pull the truck out, and instantly start cranking it to see if it will fire. BIG mistake. Dummy, why do you think your truck just quit running? Because of water! Take the plugs out and pump the water out. Then drain the oil out if possible. Fill the oil, then try and start it(after dumping out the intake and airbox and exhaust of course.

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman

No I am saying you have no clue as to the reason rods bend from water.

Do you think they magically bend when water hits them?

You drive like a fool and keep on trying to go when your motor is dead and dying and you may have a slim chance of bending a rod. slim. lucky for us bending rods is not common with an xj or any motor under 500hp filled with water.

You just don't " bend rods" Your motor only takes in as much as it can suck through the intake. Once it sucks enough water per fuel molecule it kills the motor because water wont burn.

Once your motor is dead you don't throw battery cables on it and start cranking it. You remove the plugs and pump out the water first before anything.

Not saying there is not an exception to the rule but it would be a very rare case. Or some body bent a rod and assumed it was while the truck was going through the water crossing.

I have seen it time and time again. Most people drown out, pull the truck out, and instantly start cranking it to see if it will fire. BIG mistake. Dummy, why do you think your truck just quit running? Because of water! Take the plugs out and pump the water out. Then drain the oil out if possible. Fill the oil, then try and start it(after dumping out the intake and airbox and exhaust of course.
I don't think you understand hydro locking It's not that the water won't burn but It's the fact that you can't compress water. So if your engine is spinning at 3k and all the sudden a piston has to stop before the end of its stroke the rods will bend. I'm not saying that you can't hydro lock an engine and have it be fine because you can It's just more a matter of the volume of water you are trying to compress.
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Great videos!! In my opinion you don't have a well set up rig if you can't cross water.

Exactly why all my idiotic carpet is coming out. Shoot I don't drive barefoot anyways!


One thing people don't realize, and that is water will not foul a spark plug. So no need to carry an extra set.

I have 2000 xj so I don't have to worry about the cap. Just mainly the computer and intake.

Also something to note. Make certain your transmission/transfer case, and differential vent hoses are connected and routed properly.
Yep, the 2000+ are distributor-less. I installed good wires to help the conduce the electricity from the distributor to the spark. Maybe I will replace the coil for a new one.

The guys on the videos don't have any carpet in their rigs. Besides TD engines: none sparks or distributor and pretty old: almost inexistent computers.

The 'only' problem with TD if some water enters to the engine, you can say goodbye to it.
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