How to lower an XJ and go road racing-
Yeah, that guy's high. The AW4 is extremely reliable, never heard about the lockup TC being an issue. FWIW, for our next race we're running a tranny controller from RADesigns which will keep the TC from locking up at all. That's one of the nice things about the AW4 is it's electronically controlled, so you can tell it what to do fairly easily.
I also saw the comment on the Chump forum about the transmission being a Tremec T-5...NO it is not. In pre '90 XJ/MJs it is the HORRIBLE Peugeot BA-10, then in Post '90-'99 it's the pretty good AX-15, then from 2000+ the slightly better NV3550. Never been a T-5, WC or otherwise.
The Ford 8.8 axle you want is from a 199-2000 Ford Explorer of any type. To narrow that down, the ultimate is one equipped with a limited slip differential (Ford calls it Traction-Lock) and 4.10 gears. There's a tag on the housing explaining exactly what's in it:

Great info page where I found that:
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html
We're running 3.73 gears and a LSD, and it has made all the difference in the world over the D35. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE LIMITED SLIP.
MJ leafs will not work, the wheelbase dictates a much longer leaf pack which won't work for the XJ.
-Matt
I also saw the comment on the Chump forum about the transmission being a Tremec T-5...NO it is not. In pre '90 XJ/MJs it is the HORRIBLE Peugeot BA-10, then in Post '90-'99 it's the pretty good AX-15, then from 2000+ the slightly better NV3550. Never been a T-5, WC or otherwise.
The Ford 8.8 axle you want is from a 199-2000 Ford Explorer of any type. To narrow that down, the ultimate is one equipped with a limited slip differential (Ford calls it Traction-Lock) and 4.10 gears. There's a tag on the housing explaining exactly what's in it:

Great info page where I found that:
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html
We're running 3.73 gears and a LSD, and it has made all the difference in the world over the D35. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE LIMITED SLIP.
MJ leafs will not work, the wheelbase dictates a much longer leaf pack which won't work for the XJ.
-Matt
I put the Ranger Station rear axle article into my favorites, and printed the important stuff to take to the junkyard with me.
I'll be looking for a post 1995 Explorer with a D2 axle code on it's vehicle data plate, and 4L10 on it's differential tag. THANKS GUY, hopefully, next year we can be on the same track. BTW, I will go with the slotted rotors, but leave everything else stock as you are doing. Brie
I'll be looking for a post 1995 Explorer with a D2 axle code on it's vehicle data plate, and 4L10 on it's differential tag. THANKS GUY, hopefully, next year we can be on the same track. BTW, I will go with the slotted rotors, but leave everything else stock as you are doing. Brie
Hey Matt, how did your race go last month? This is what we have done in the interim. I heard from several Rambler guru's that if I grab the crank and rods out of the 258, and use the head and pistons off the Renix 4.0 I will wind up with 283 Cu. In. displacement, a bit higher compression, and a TON more torque, so GUESS what I DID. I haven't fired it up yet, because
once I bent under the rear of the car and LOOKED, it turns out that there is a Dana 44, with a 3.54 limited slip there, but mounted spring over. I have the perches from an MJ that I took out of a U-Pull junkyard, so that I can grind down the spring over perches off the existing D44, and put them on. The perches on the MJ were NOT welded to the axle, when I put them on the D44 that I have, do I have to weld them? Would it be better for me to just go back to this SUPER cheap junkyard, and GET an MJ D44, saving the existing one for a 1959 Ford F-100 that I'm resto-modding with a 302/C4?
Team Infinity, Mogren, and Krek from the ChumpCar forum ALL think that I should keep the Jeep below 5500RPM, for both fuel milage reasons, and the fact that several people on the site say that somewhere just below 6000 RPM, the motor picks up a wicked harmonic that is NOT conducive to long life. Becides, they all tell me that with the torque monster engine that I can legally build, I should STAY with the ratio that the D44 HAS,
and as Team Infinity put it, "use the TORQUE Luke".
They also think that it is a good idea to try the 904 transmission because it is lighter than the AW4 transmission, is this TRUE???
Once again, THANKS in advance for you experience in this.
Brie
once I bent under the rear of the car and LOOKED, it turns out that there is a Dana 44, with a 3.54 limited slip there, but mounted spring over. I have the perches from an MJ that I took out of a U-Pull junkyard, so that I can grind down the spring over perches off the existing D44, and put them on. The perches on the MJ were NOT welded to the axle, when I put them on the D44 that I have, do I have to weld them? Would it be better for me to just go back to this SUPER cheap junkyard, and GET an MJ D44, saving the existing one for a 1959 Ford F-100 that I'm resto-modding with a 302/C4?
Team Infinity, Mogren, and Krek from the ChumpCar forum ALL think that I should keep the Jeep below 5500RPM, for both fuel milage reasons, and the fact that several people on the site say that somewhere just below 6000 RPM, the motor picks up a wicked harmonic that is NOT conducive to long life. Becides, they all tell me that with the torque monster engine that I can legally build, I should STAY with the ratio that the D44 HAS,
and as Team Infinity put it, "use the TORQUE Luke".
They also think that it is a good idea to try the 904 transmission because it is lighter than the AW4 transmission, is this TRUE???
Once again, THANKS in advance for you experience in this.
Brie
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Hey Matt, how did your race go last month? This is what we have done in the interim. I heard from several Rambler guru's that if I grab the crank and rods out of the 258, and use the head and pistons off the Renix 4.0 I will wind up with 283 Cu. In. displacement, a bit higher compression, and a TON more torque, so GUESS what I DID.
Here's a pic of the car at Sears Point:

I haven't fired it up yet, because
once I bent under the rear of the car and LOOKED, it turns out that there is a Dana 44, with a 3.54 limited slip there, but mounted spring over. I have the perches from an MJ that I took out of a U-Pull junkyard, so that I can grind down the spring over perches off the existing D44, and put them on. The perches on the MJ were NOT welded to the axle, when I put them on the D44 that I have, do I have to weld them? Would it be better for me to just go back to this SUPER cheap junkyard, and GET an MJ D44, saving the existing one for a 1959 Ford F-100 that I'm resto-modding with a 302/C4?
once I bent under the rear of the car and LOOKED, it turns out that there is a Dana 44, with a 3.54 limited slip there, but mounted spring over. I have the perches from an MJ that I took out of a U-Pull junkyard, so that I can grind down the spring over perches off the existing D44, and put them on. The perches on the MJ were NOT welded to the axle, when I put them on the D44 that I have, do I have to weld them? Would it be better for me to just go back to this SUPER cheap junkyard, and GET an MJ D44, saving the existing one for a 1959 Ford F-100 that I'm resto-modding with a 302/C4?
Team Infinity, Mogren, and Krek from the ChumpCar forum ALL think that I should keep the Jeep below 5500RPM, for both fuel milage reasons, and the fact that several people on the site say that somewhere just below 6000 RPM, the motor picks up a wicked harmonic that is NOT conducive to long life.


Becides, they all tell me that with the torque monster engine that I can legally build, I should STAY with the ratio that the D44 HAS,
and as Team Infinity put it, "use the TORQUE Luke".
They also think that it is a good idea to try the 904 transmission because it is lighter than the AW4 transmission, is this TRUE???
Once again, THANKS in advance for you experience in this.
Brie
and as Team Infinity put it, "use the TORQUE Luke".
They also think that it is a good idea to try the 904 transmission because it is lighter than the AW4 transmission, is this TRUE???
Once again, THANKS in advance for you experience in this.
Brie
I'm in the process of prepping our Jeep for the full 24 hour race in Reno May 14-15. We're going to a different tire (Falken Azenis 615K in 245/45R17) and building a slightly tweaked 4.0. It's going to have a Renix bottom end, ported High Output head, mild cam, 99+ intake manifold, bored throttle body and a nicer header. I'm hoping to put out about 150 rwhp/175 lb/ft. We're also adding a bunch of lights and a Savvy Offroad/Vanco big brake kit while we refurb the front end (-2 degree offset ball joints, etc).
-Matt
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The absolute BEST of luck to you and your team Matt, I'll be out here in the West Texas Grasslands building my Chumpcar for next year's races, I willl start the season at the Charlotte Motor Speedway race. We just ran Charlotte last weekend, the first half was WET, the rest was dry, and VERY fast. The cars ran 3/4ths of the tri-oval, and a little bit of a road course in the enfield to boot. It was a 14 hour race. It was a first for CCWS to be allowed to run there, and they have asked us back for next year.
With all my heros of NASCAR racing there when I was a kid, to be able to say that I RACED at Charlotte, is a DEFINATE "Bucket List" thing for me. Most of the others, I have gotten a chance to do, I have flown a Ford Tri-Motor, I own and a fly a pre-WW-II Antique, and have flown an ultralight from Florida to the Bahamas, (Lantana, Fl., to West End Airport, on Grand Bahama Island). Once I race a ChumpCar at Charlotte, I can die fulfilled and happy, but I'm in no rush. Brie
With all my heros of NASCAR racing there when I was a kid, to be able to say that I RACED at Charlotte, is a DEFINATE "Bucket List" thing for me. Most of the others, I have gotten a chance to do, I have flown a Ford Tri-Motor, I own and a fly a pre-WW-II Antique, and have flown an ultralight from Florida to the Bahamas, (Lantana, Fl., to West End Airport, on Grand Bahama Island). Once I race a ChumpCar at Charlotte, I can die fulfilled and happy, but I'm in no rush. Brie
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