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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:52 AM
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i still have the d30 in front and need to do high steer, gonna just flip the ends to the top ream the holes, use 1ton ends and some thick wall dom. but i was seeing what to do with the draglink. would it be a terrible idea to drill and ream another hole just be hind the ti rod for another 1ton to the draglink? idk if that makes sense but i hope it does haha
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 04:48 AM
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only one you can flip is driver side to the top
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 05:19 AM
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http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/sho...e-Tie-Rod-Flip.
Great write up with good pics.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Make a mount for the drag link on the tie rod.



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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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I need to do an OTK setup. Subscribed.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OnlyInMyXJ22
Make a mount for the drag link on the tie rod.



Not really a good way to do it. Adjusting the Tie-Rod for proper toe-in will be a PITA and fine adjustments will be impossible.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Post pics of yours Frank!
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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I can take a couple pics later today, but mine is a D44 with flat tops and high steer arms.....apples and oranges really.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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One of the things you run into with a high steer is what to do about the track bar mount. If you try to keep it equal in length and parallel with the drag link you end up with it inside the coil spring. If you shorten it and raise it then you have a shorter track bar and when hitting bumps, it will force the wheels to steer slightly to the right. This can cause death wobble. I fought this for a long time on a high steer until I just remade the whole track bar and mount. If it is a dedicated trail rig, then no biggie. But you need to cover all the bases with a daily driver.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
Not really a good way to do it. Adjusting the Tie-Rod for proper toe-in will be a PITA and fine adjustments will be impossible.
None of the steering setups we've done like this have a problem getting aligned or having proper toe-in.

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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OnlyInMyXJ22
None of the steering setups we've done like this have a problem getting aligned or having proper toe-in.

Re-read my post.

You can't make fine adjustments to that configuration because the draglink mounts limit the amount of adjustment. The mount must be pointing up at all times.

In order to make any adjustments you've got to disconnect the draglink or remove the hardware from the tie-rod heims, loosen the jam nuts, rotate the heims 180 deg, then re-assemble everything and measure the toe-in. if not correct.....repeat the process over and over until it's right.

That is a PITA.

A tie-rod that is independent of the draglink can be rotated easily without any more work than loosening a couple jam nuts. 1 degree or 360 degrees, makes no difference.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
I can take a couple pics later today, but mine is a D44 with flat tops and high steer arms.....apples and oranges really.
I would love some pics of that I'm about to put a 44 in the front of my zj.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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I wanted Frank to post pics of his OTK setup he sells for our D30s.

The one on his site.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
Re-read my post.

You can't make fine adjustments to that configuration because the draglink mounts limit the amount of adjustment. The mount must be pointing up at all times.

In order to make any adjustments you've got to disconnect the draglink or remove the hardware from the tie-rod heims, loosen the jam nuts, rotate the heims 180 deg, then re-assemble everything and measure the toe-in. if not correct.....repeat the process over and over until it's right.

That is a PITA.

A tie-rod that is independent of the draglink can be rotated easily without any more work than loosening a couple jam nuts. 1 degree or 360 degrees, makes no difference.
Gotcha, I over-read what you said.

Very true that it can be a PITA to align.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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it sounds to me like you want to use the existing stock steering. if this is the case, i would just start fresh. it would be much easier in the long run.
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