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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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ok, so here's the deal. i've got a 95 cherokee on a 5" lift with 33" BFG's. my lift consists of 3" coils, 2" spacers, add a leaf, and 2" shackles in the rear for a 5" total. I have everything else stock like track bar and control arms, and i think this has to be stressing the stock components a lot. my question is what do i need to adjust and replace to take it to an 8" lift, just the minimum? any help would be awesome!
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboy
ok, so here's the deal. i've got a 95 cherokee on a 5" lift with 33" BFG's. my lift consists of 3" coils, 2" spacers, add a leaf, and 2" shackles in the rear for a 5" total. I have everything else stock like track bar and control arms, and i think this has to be stressing the stock components a lot. my question is what do i need to adjust and replace to take it to an 8" lift, just the minimum? any help would be awesome!
I'd go with an aftermarket trac bar and for an 8" lift you'll wanna get long arms.

At minimum.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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you're definitly gonna need a SYE with that much lift and yeah and like gee oh dee said you'll either have to get a extended pitman arm or some sort of aftermarket tracbar for your steering box, long arms would help big time too!
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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you're definitly gonna need a SYE with that much lift and yeah and like gee oh dee said you'll either have to get a extended pitman arm or some sort of aftermarket tracbar for your steering box, long arms would help big time too!
You could probably drop the tcase enough to get away without one, but I strongly dislike doing so, and in this case it'd probably ruin any gains the lift would bring.

At 8" of lift short arms could get scary. Thats some pretty rough angles to be putting your suspension at. At minimum you'll wanna get a bracket to drop the lower control arms, but a LA kit would be best.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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You could probably drop the tcase enough to get away without one, but I strongly dislike doing so, and in this case it'd probably ruin any gains the lift would bring.
not really... I mean the most I have seen a tcase dropped is 1.5" but they also lowered the front of the engine too...

it was on a 6" lift... so lets do the math


6" (lift)
+3.5" (lift do to running 35" tires)
_____
9.5" (total lift)
-1.5" (belly clearance lost do to the major t case drop)
____
8"

wait, so they still have 8" of clearance gained...

WE all know that a tcase drop is not ideal... but IT DOES work and IT DOES NOT cancel out all your lift... further more there and MANY other things that you are more likely to get hung up on other than your tcase crossmember:

axle? shock mounts? the diff it self? control arms?

point is even with it lowered it is still one of the highest mounted parts on the bottom side of your truck

wait? you are that guy that said that your axle does not shift AT ALL with a stock track bar and a 3" lift... why am I even bothering?

but... back to the point... it is just not worth it to try and drop the tcase @ 8"... it is kinda a losing battle, if a tcase drop is all you can afford then you really need to consider staying 4.5" or less

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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ok, so i'm going to want a track bar bracket or the whole thing? and a drop pitman arm, and a SYE, and long arms, correct?
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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Very few people get away with no SYE with that much lift. So that's your first thing to buy. Here's a few items to get you started.

1. SYE and custom length rear drive shaft
2. Longer shocks!
3. Longer brake hoses if you didn't do them already
4. Steering box brace
5. Adjustable track bar
6. Upper Control arms
7. Definately long arms. Not sure if Drop Brackets will work at that height.
8. Crazy amount of shims for the rear axle
9. Gears
10.A ladder
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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not really... I mean the most I have seen a tcase dropped is 1.5" but they also lowered the front of the engine too...

it was on a 6" lift... so lets do the math


6" (lift)
+3.5" (lift do to running 35" tires)
_____
9.5" (total lift)
-1.5" (belly clearance lost do to the major t case drop)
____
8"

wait, so they still have 8" of clearance gained...

WE all know that a tcase drop is not ideal... but IT DOES work and IT DOES NOT cancel out all your lift... further more there and MANY other things that you are more likely to get hung up on other than your tcase crossmember:

axle? shock mounts? the diff it self? control arms?

point is even with it lowered it is still one of the highest mounted parts on the bottom side of your truck

wait? you are that guy that said that your axle does not shift AT ALL with a stock track bar and a 3" lift... why am I even bothering?

but... back to the point... it is just not worth it to try and drop the tcase @ 8"... it is kinda a losing battle, if a tcase drop is all you can afford then you really need to consider staying 4.5" or less
So...wait...your saying its a GOOD idea to go with a Tcase drop and 8" of lift?

And why drop just the front of the motor? Wouldn't that bring the tail of the trans up?

Ok, whatever, have fun with that. I like how we disagree on something once and you think I'm wrong all the time.

Have you seen my truck yet? Still haven't, eh? Mmmmkay.

Like I said, if you dropped the Tcase you could probably get along fine, but I wouldn't recommend it. It'd be putting major stress on some parts you don't want to stress.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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So...wait...your saying its a GOOD idea to go with a Tcase drop and 8" of lift?

And why drop just the front of the motor? Wouldn't that bring the tail of the trans up?

Ok, whatever, have fun with that. I like how we disagree on something once and you think I'm wrong all the time.

Have you seen my truck yet? Still haven't, eh? Mmmmkay.:thumbsup
no it's a terrible idea... but people do it

if you have to ask, then it might be over your head

don't need to, suspension geometry it suspension geometry. you said it yourself
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
no it's a terrible idea... but people do it
Exactly. So any gains from the lift would be useless. In other words ruined. Like I said.

Originally Posted by ericfx1984
if you have to ask, then it might be over your head

don't need to, suspension geometry it suspension geometry. you said it yourself


Ok buddie.

Since its obviously over your head, and your obviously dwelling on it...

Just relocate the stock trac bar. Then all the axle shifting is taken care of.

Happy now that I explained my seceret? Or is that not possible either?

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee


Ok buddie.

Since its obviously over your head, and your obviously dwelling on it...

Just relocate the stock trac bar. Then all the axle shifting is taken care of.

Happy now that I explained my seceret? Or is that not possible either?
did it now???


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Weird. My BDS lift kept the factory trac bar and its location IIRC.

gotta make up your mind...


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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Sorry, your right, I did not remember correctly.

Factory trac bar, different bracket.

Happy now? Get your "I'm right your wrong" fix?

Its the internet, pal, do you have a life outside it?

Was this the end of the world in your eyes?

So can we now get back on topic or do you want to try and de-rail another thread?

Jesus christ.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Sorry, your right, I did not remember correctly.

Factory trac bar, different bracket.

Happy now? Get your "I'm right your wrong" fix?

Its the internet, pal, do you have a life outside it?

Was this the end of the world in your eyes?

So can we now get back on topic or do you want to try and de-rail another thread?

Jesus christ.
no not at all, I just do not want people to get the wrong idea, too much bad information running around the net
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
no not at all, I just do not want people to get the wrong idea, too much bad information running around the net
Oh my lord, you've been thinking about this since 2/24?!?!?!

What the hell is wrong with you? Do you not have a life outside your computer??

Holy hell man!
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Oh my lord, you've been thinking about this since 2/24?!?!?!

What the hell is wrong with you? Do you not have a life outside your computer??

Holy hell man!
says that guy with 2,755 post in half a year? I guess I should be asking you the same thing

anyways I am done with this

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