Do I need an SYE
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From: Lubbock, Tx
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 6 cylinder
Okay guys. So I have an 89 with the straight 6, aw4 tranny, and the np231 t-case. I'm about to get the metalcloak 3.5" lift for my old girl, and I wanted to ask you guys something before I did and started on it.
Do I need and SYE for this project?
On MC's website it notes that one is needed. I wanted to know if this was true, and if so what SYE would you recommend?
I'm not looking to cut into my old girl just in case I botch something, and end up having to buy new parts to get me right back where I started.
Thanks in advance guys. You've always been a big help when it came to projects for me.
Do I need and SYE for this project?
On MC's website it notes that one is needed. I wanted to know if this was true, and if so what SYE would you recommend?
I'm not looking to cut into my old girl just in case I botch something, and end up having to buy new parts to get me right back where I started.
Thanks in advance guys. You've always been a big help when it came to projects for me.
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From: Oregon Coast
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
You can get by with a tcase drop, but it is just a temporary fix. If you can afford it do the sye. If not do the drop until you can afford the sye.
A transfer case drop may help the rear shaft, but at the same time it raises the front shaft angle as well as putting more stress on the engine and trans mounts.
A transfer case drop may help the rear shaft, but at the same time it raises the front shaft angle as well as putting more stress on the engine and trans mounts.
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Originally Posted by richardsondj
Why do you regret doing one?
Spent $20 that I didn't have to (buying it). Couldn't make it over a pipe garden because the crossmember hit because it was lowered. Puts strain on mounts, tilts the engine at a funky angle, after taking my drop off my jeep seemed to run better and make less noises (maybe just a coincidence) the tcase drop didn't fully fix my problem ( driveshaft would still bind pulling my trailer up my driveway because of axle wrap), made my exhaust hang down lower and ripped it off because it got caught going over the top of a hill, there's more but I think that's enough reasons why.
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Originally Posted by richardsondj
That's some bad luck sorry man.
My slip yoke double cardan shaft has been kicking butt for 2 years now. It isn't a full 'slip yoke eliminator' design but it eliminated my vibes (with shimming the driveline, of course)
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From: Monett, MO.
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
An SYE is "NEVER" not a good idea everything else is a Band-Aid for it. When you do I suggest a new custom driveshaft (bought mine for $199). Because by the time you buy a used front DS and have it rebuilt with larger U-Joints, etc. it comes out about the same or more.
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From: s.jersey
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
you can probably get by with just dropping the t-case some until you get the cash to do the sye. thats what i did. took 90% of the vibrations out of it. i'll still do a sye when i save the money to do it but it atleast lets me use the jeep in the mean time. and unless you wheel hard core you may never even need the sye in reality.
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From: Vestal, New York
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Advance Adaptor SYE. Not that expensive and pretty simple to install. Use a front driveshaft for a temp while you save for a custom built one. You'll never have to worry about vibes and that puts one more thing out of your mind to worry about.
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Originally Posted by brendancfarrell
Advance Adaptor SYE. Not that expensive and pretty simple to install. Use a front driveshaft for a temp while you save for a custom built one. You'll never have to worry about vibes and that puts one more thing out of your mind to worry about.
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From: Gainesville GA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
At 3.5 inches, I would install the lift THEN see if you need it. My XJ has a 6.5 lift with the stock driveshaft & barely any vibration.
Just got it back from having a guy do the H&T & now it sounds like I have ball bearings rolling around in the t case & rear end. Oh yeah, I forget to add, NOW I have vibrations.
I hope it's the JY d shaft he put in.
Just got it back from having a guy do the H&T & now it sounds like I have ball bearings rolling around in the t case & rear end. Oh yeah, I forget to add, NOW I have vibrations.
I hope it's the JY d shaft he put in.


