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Old 12-14-2012, 12:51 AM
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Hey guys im making my own steering and I think i want to use heim joints. im just confused on what size i need and if i need misalignment spacers and all of that because i honestly dont know. ive read and read and read but no one has a parts list.

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Go on ruff stuff look at there 3/4 heims
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heres a parts list, you can buy it from them too. Worth it to me rather than tracking down all the pieces individually and shipping from multiple places. and you can regularly find 10% to 20% discounts from ruffstuff if you search the vendors section.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/34STEER.html

7/8" heim version is only 10 bucks more

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/78STEER.html

you will just have to buy the nuts and bolts (grade 8 only, and nylock nuts)
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
heres a parts list, you can buy it from them too. Worth it to me rather than tracking down all the pieces individually and shipping from multiple places. and you can regularly find 10% to 20% discounts from ruffstuff if you search the vendors section.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/34STEER.html

7/8" heim version is only 10 bucks more

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/78STEER.html

you will just have to buy the nuts and bolts (grade 8 only, and nylock nuts)
Or for 90 more dollars we sell the heim setup complete, already the right length for your application and ready to install. We also use the 7/8s ruffstuff heims, not 3/4". As well as solid steel hex drilled and threaded for the heims instead of 1/4" wall tube with a weld in bung.

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Oh and cherokeeforum members get 10 percent off...

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Or for 90 more dollars we sell the heim setup complete, already the right length for your application and ready to install. We also use the 7/8s ruffstuff heims, not 3/4". As well as solid steel hex drilled and threaded for the heims instead of 1/4" wall tube with a weld in bung.

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Well here's the thing I already have the Dom so that's going to save me at least 100$ right off the bat. I'm just confused on what size heim joints to go with. Some ppl say 3/4x5/8. Then my other thing is is there different heim joints that I use for the tie rod and the drag link?
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This is what I came up with.

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I used 3/4 and mine is basically an inverted T design with misalignment only at the pitman arm. If you put the tie rod and drag link at the knuckle you'll need misalignments due to the angle on the drag link.
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Originally Posted by xjmarc
I used 3/4 and mine is basically an inverted T design with misalignment only at the pitman arm. If you put the tie rod and drag link at the knuckle you'll need misalignments due to the angle on the drag link.
Ya that's what I'm going to order. Now do I put the tie rod under the knuckle and then the draglink on top? If so can I keep the sway bar links or do I need to cut them off
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Use safety misalignment spacers on the drag link, and make sure to use washers larger than the ID of the heim body so that if one should fail it cant fall off.
List looks good though. 3/4x5/8 for tie rod. 3/4 for drag link with safety misalignment spacers. Get the 3/4 heim set like the other set too, cheaper to get it all together. If not dont forget the jamb nuts. They also have hex inserts now which is nice for adjusting the tie rod.
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Use safety misalignment spacers on the drag link, and make sure to use washers larger than the ID of the heim body so that if one should fail it cant fall off.
List looks good though. 3/4x5/8 for tie rod. 3/4 for drag link with safety misalignment spacers. Get the 3/4 heim set like the other set too, cheaper to get it all together. If not dont forget the jamb nuts. They also have hex inserts now which is nice for adjusting the tie rod.
Thanks appreciate the advice!
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So I've been searching pics of the heim joint steering and some people have the tie rod under the knuckle and the drag link over the knuckle and some have them both on top. What one do I do? Also would the heim joint go below or above the pitman arm?
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Mounting above or below the knuckle depends on preference and room. Some wheels won't clear both on top and you also put a good bit of stress on the bolt. And mount on the bottom of the pitman arm just like stock. Take the arm off to drill it out so you get it right and go slow on it and the knuckles so you don't end up beating out broken drill bits.
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Exactly. I run one top and one bottom just because of the load on the bolt.
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Originally Posted by xjmarc
Mounting above or below the knuckle depends on preference and room. Some wheels won't clear both on top and you also put a good bit of stress on the bolt. And mount on the bottom of the pitman arm just like stock. Take the arm off to drill it out so you get it right and go slow on it and the knuckles so you don't end up beating out broken drill bits.
Someone just told me to run the drag link above the pit man arm because I'm running the stock track bar location and it would reduce bump steer


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