Deciding On A Lift Kit For My First XJ
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Deciding On A Lift Kit For My First XJ
I think I have it narrowed down to these two guys:
http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-sus...70-config.html
http://www.trailmastersuspension.com...fMTM3730-40013
I need a kit under $300 that will be good around town and for light trails, nothing major. I want it to still be as smooth as possible so I think one of these two should work. What do you guys think? Are these companies okay? Any others that I should look at instead?
http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-sus...70-config.html
http://www.trailmastersuspension.com...fMTM3730-40013
I need a kit under $300 that will be good around town and for light trails, nothing major. I want it to still be as smooth as possible so I think one of these two should work. What do you guys think? Are these companies okay? Any others that I should look at instead?
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The first lift that I put on my Cherokee was the 3in rough country add a leaf lift. Ensure that your rear leaf springs are in good shape if your going with the add a leaf. Your ride will be a little more stiff. This is a pic of my Cherokee with the three inch lift and 30 inch tires.
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A lot depends on the amount of lift your after, and how you want to go about doing it. For that price all it looks like are AAL kits for >$300 range. That might work out OK for you if your old leaf springs are in good shape, most aren't at their age.
IMHO a full spring package is the way to go for that very reason, besides having to take the old leafs apart to add the new leaf to them. Most of the kits include about the same some don't, I bought a Rustys Off Road 3" full spring package lift and it came with everything I needed to complete the install. By that I mean the correct hardware also the only extra I bought was a transfer drop kit for $28.
One thing I did learn here the last 18 mo or so was all springs are not equal. Some will sag rather quickly while others will over longer time periods like stock springs. My Rustys springs in 2 yrs have not sagged enough for me to be able to measure it if they have. The shocks like in any entry level kit leave something to be desired but work OK..
His kit ran me $438 and I have been well pleased with it so far. I had a new RC 4 1/2 lift kit here I took in on a trade and will tell you the Rustys kit looked better than it did for sure. You might consider saving a couple of more bucks and doing it right from the start it will last you longer.
BTY I ordered the front HD coils (180#) for mine because of the winch and winch bumper. The rear leafs carry a lot of extra weight also HD swing out tire carrier bumper and about 250# of cargo in the read for recovery/tools/air compressor/Lg. EMT first Aid kit/guns/ammo/kitchen sink all the time. When unloaded it still comes back to where it started at after the lift measured from the axle.
IMHO a full spring package is the way to go for that very reason, besides having to take the old leafs apart to add the new leaf to them. Most of the kits include about the same some don't, I bought a Rustys Off Road 3" full spring package lift and it came with everything I needed to complete the install. By that I mean the correct hardware also the only extra I bought was a transfer drop kit for $28.
One thing I did learn here the last 18 mo or so was all springs are not equal. Some will sag rather quickly while others will over longer time periods like stock springs. My Rustys springs in 2 yrs have not sagged enough for me to be able to measure it if they have. The shocks like in any entry level kit leave something to be desired but work OK..
His kit ran me $438 and I have been well pleased with it so far. I had a new RC 4 1/2 lift kit here I took in on a trade and will tell you the Rustys kit looked better than it did for sure. You might consider saving a couple of more bucks and doing it right from the start it will last you longer.
BTY I ordered the front HD coils (180#) for mine because of the winch and winch bumper. The rear leafs carry a lot of extra weight also HD swing out tire carrier bumper and about 250# of cargo in the read for recovery/tools/air compressor/Lg. EMT first Aid kit/guns/ammo/kitchen sink all the time. When unloaded it still comes back to where it started at after the lift measured from the axle.
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The only kits I have seen within my budget are add a leaf kits. The leafs on there do look fine, it's only an 01. What do you guys think about these two companies? Is there a better option that I am missing?
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There are a lot of options in this lift and price range. Some other things to consider:
- A 3" lift will require track bar relocation (or a new track bar), could require a transfer case drop to avoid vibes, and extended brake lines are a good idea if you're going to flex it out. You'll also want longer sway bar connectors or quick disconnects. You will probably end up buying a few more parts than what come in any budget kit. A 2" lift is easy, but 3" or more starts to affect more systems like steering, brake lines, driveshaft angles, alignment, etc.
- If you have the tools and time, you could build a "bastard pack" with additional leaf springs out of an XJ, S10, etc. and have better performance than an AAL for less money. Consider piecing together your lift with 3" springs, a bastard pack, and other individual parts like JK Rubicon shocks. There is lots of great info on the board if you do some reading.
- If you want a more complete kit with better quality that you will be happier with in the long run, take a look at the Rubicon Express kits. Serious Offroad has good prices on them:
http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...n/Lift-Kits/XJ
Edit: I just saw that your location is in Rexburg! I've been up there a bunch for work. If you go to the university, you've probably been in several rooms that I helped design.
- A 3" lift will require track bar relocation (or a new track bar), could require a transfer case drop to avoid vibes, and extended brake lines are a good idea if you're going to flex it out. You'll also want longer sway bar connectors or quick disconnects. You will probably end up buying a few more parts than what come in any budget kit. A 2" lift is easy, but 3" or more starts to affect more systems like steering, brake lines, driveshaft angles, alignment, etc.
- If you have the tools and time, you could build a "bastard pack" with additional leaf springs out of an XJ, S10, etc. and have better performance than an AAL for less money. Consider piecing together your lift with 3" springs, a bastard pack, and other individual parts like JK Rubicon shocks. There is lots of great info on the board if you do some reading.
- If you want a more complete kit with better quality that you will be happier with in the long run, take a look at the Rubicon Express kits. Serious Offroad has good prices on them:
http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...n/Lift-Kits/XJ
Edit: I just saw that your location is in Rexburg! I've been up there a bunch for work. If you go to the university, you've probably been in several rooms that I helped design.
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Like stated above, it is a bit more involved than those pictures show. Generally you're going to get negative support on AAL's from people on the forum. You also need a track bar or relocation bracket, potential shims and/or slip yoke eliminator and you should consider control arms. I would suggest doing it right the first time, because if you go the cheap route from the start, you're going to spend more money later.
I've never heard of the second one, but people will generally tell you not to buy RC.
Also just FYI, post your lift questions here: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/al...go-here-10579/
I personally don't care if you start a new thread but it is encouraged to keep similar topics within the same threads.
I've never heard of the second one, but people will generally tell you not to buy RC.
Also just FYI, post your lift questions here: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/al...go-here-10579/
I personally don't care if you start a new thread but it is encouraged to keep similar topics within the same threads.
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Lots of good information, thank you guys! Definitely nice to have forum guys genuinely care about new guys. The whole reason I was looking into a lift in the first place is because the front right spring and shock are completely shot. Shocks are inexpensive but I figured while I was working on suspension I was just going to do it right and replace the springs too. If I didn't go higher than 2.5", would I have to worry about other adjustments (i.e. slip-yoke, driveshaft, etc.)?
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Lots of good information, thank you guys! Definitely nice to have forum guys genuinely care about new guys. The whole reason I was looking into a lift in the first place is because the front right spring and shock are completely shot. Shocks are inexpensive but I figured while I was working on suspension I was just going to do it right and replace the springs too. If I didn't go higher than 2.5", would I have to worry about other adjustments (i.e. slip-yoke, driveshaft, etc.)?
I do attend the college here! Great place, very friendly people. I'm originally from the Bay Area so the culture is definitely different!
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If you're on a budget and just want a small lift while replacing worn out parts, I would stick with the 2" height and keep it simple. You can always go higher later when you have more time/money and know exactly what you want. A 2" lift is still noticeable and you can run 30" tires (bigger with some trimming).
A budget boost with spacers is cheapest, but if your coil springs are bad too that won't work. If you want to buy an all-in-one kit and you're ok with AAL, consider this one:
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...-leaf-kit.html
You could also piece it together from various parts, such as JK Wrangler take-off shocks (usually cheap and easy to find), ZJ coil springs (I think give you 1"-2" of lift) or XJ Upcountry springs (1" lift), a bastard pack leaf spring, etc.
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If you're on a budget and just want a small lift while replacing worn out parts, I would stick with the 2" height and keep it simple. You can always go higher later when you have more time/money and know exactly what you want. A 2" lift is still noticeable and you can run 30" tires (bigger with some trimming).
A budget boost with spacers is cheapest, but if your coil springs are bad too that won't work. If you want to buy an all-in-one kit and you're ok with AAL, consider this one:
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...-leaf-kit.html
A budget boost with spacers is cheapest, but if your coil springs are bad too that won't work. If you want to buy an all-in-one kit and you're ok with AAL, consider this one:
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...-leaf-kit.html
2" shouldn't be too big of a deal and I have heard good things about Rusty shocks.
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I've never been okay with Aal's but it's all preference. They just end up sagging with the rest of the spring over time anyway, that's why a full pack is worth it. You should also check out
http://m.quadratec.com/products/?cn=JKS+Manufacturing+ACOS+Coil+Spacer+System&pn=1 6156.000%2C16156.020
These are adjustable cover coil spacers that can level out a lift or saggy springs. Here's an install video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o0leFEB5LbE
Check out some of Bleepinjeeps stuff on YouTube, it's incredibly helpful.
http://m.quadratec.com/products/?cn=JKS+Manufacturing+ACOS+Coil+Spacer+System&pn=1 6156.000%2C16156.020
These are adjustable cover coil spacers that can level out a lift or saggy springs. Here's an install video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o0leFEB5LbE
Check out some of Bleepinjeeps stuff on YouTube, it's incredibly helpful.
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IMO, you wont get a good ride quality out of either of those. Keep saving your money and buy some 3.5" RE coils, new lower control arms that are longer than stock, new 3" leaf packs, and some Bilstein 5100 shocks. Trail master should be thrown out of our options.
Rough country springs are soft and will sag. Hell, to even be cheaper, call RC and get their 3" leaf packs and some LCA's. Buy front springs and shocks somewhere else.
Rough country springs are soft and will sag. Hell, to even be cheaper, call RC and get their 3" leaf packs and some LCA's. Buy front springs and shocks somewhere else.
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Hello all, I'm a brand new XJ owner myself and have a lot of questions as well. I was wondering if anyone could explain the difference between the RE super ride and super flex short arm kits? And also if I went with one of those what else would be required as far as extra work if I went with one of the 3.5" kits?