Death wobble after installing cavfab 1ton heim steering?!
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Southern California
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Hi all, I installed new cavfab high clearance 1 ton steering with heim joints. I am not running a steering stabilizer on the steering right now At the same time, I installed new ball joints, u joints, and hubs. I get bad death wobble around ~50mph to the point of me having to slow down to 5mph to regain control. All heims and jam nuts are tightened to spec. I did a driveway alignment and if my measurements are correct, I should be 3/16 toed in at the moment. I am running an IRO double shear trac bar under the axle. I'm pretty sure that my trac bar not being parallel to the drag link will only cause bumpsteer, but please correct me if I'm wrong. The trac bar seems to be in good shape and I double checked that the axle side bolt and the frame side bolt and mount was tight. I am totally lost on this one. Maybe bad alignment? Maybe unbalanced tires? Any suggestions would be great.
CF Veteran
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,208
Likes: 5
From: Ocean County, NJ
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Post a pic of your front end. Air pressure plays a role in death wobble, make sure your tires have the correct and equal pressure.
If you installed your steering OTK and are still running UTA track bar then most likely this is your problem. Not sure what kind of lift you have but if you have a drop pitman arm you can try putting a stock pitman arm on to help get a closer angle to match your draglink.
If you installed your steering OTK and are still running UTA track bar then most likely this is your problem. Not sure what kind of lift you have but if you have a drop pitman arm you can try putting a stock pitman arm on to help get a closer angle to match your draglink.
I would go get an actual alignment, re-check the track bar and from there I would say tire pressure/balance issue.
When you drilled the knuckles did you make sure you didnt oversize the holes? The bolts should be a snug fit in the knuckles.
How much lift? What size tires?
When you drilled the knuckles did you make sure you didnt oversize the holes? The bolts should be a snug fit in the knuckles.
How much lift? What size tires?
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Southern California
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
when i drilled it the knuckles and the pitman arm, I used a reamer to help me stay centered and I had no issues with it wandering so I think the holes are proper size
Trending Topics
CF Veteran
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,839
Likes: 7
From: West Deptford, NJ
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
CF Veteran

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,364
Likes: 37
From: Dont Colorado Wyoming
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Southern California
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Thabks for the input guys I just ran it to the top of my pitman arm. I also just got an alignment and got my tires balanced. I didn't get DW up to 55mph but when I hit a pothole around 50 I could feel it wanting to go. When I adjusted my draglink to the top of the pitman, I think the hole in the pitman might be a little too big. There is room for just a little wiggle room inside. Obviously when I torque it down it doesn't move. I had my dad turn the wheel back and forth doo could take a look and the drag link knocks up and down when the wheels switch direction. I know the heims allow for pivoting movement but it knocks pretty aggressively. I can feel the knock in the bolt on the pitman so I'm not sure if it's caused by the draglink moving or the bolt moving in the pitman.
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Southern California
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
I got my tires balanced and aligned, I switched the drag link to the top of the pitman, and my buddy has the same steering as I do and he didn't end up using his stabilizer mount or fox stabilizer so I slapped that on. Also, when I went to make sure all of my jam nuts and trac bar was tight, I went and tighted up my control arms. The driver side control arm was very loose at the axle and frame end. I've got up to 70mph and over bumps at speed and no DW. I'll keep an eye on it but it's driving nicely at the moment!
I'm thinking it was maybe that lose control arm,But ill pray for you it don't come back again.Thats the only thing bad about these jeeps to me any part of the whole front suspension wrong you get death wobble.
CF Veteran

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,364
Likes: 37
From: Dont Colorado Wyoming
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
might also check the steering box spacer. a cracked one can provide some wiggle. glad yuou got it i figured out. Make sure your Control Arms are properly torqued after you drive it around. They will loosen and settle a tad bit.
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
I fixed the wallowed out holes by welding on washers, and then upgraded to long arms which I really needed anyway at that lift height.



