Cherry picked 3.5" lift
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From: Alamogordo NM
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Just ordered RE1345, 5.5" coils, for only $88 plus free shipping from Amazon and RE1270 2" lift blocks to bring up the rear, $48 also shipped free from Amazon, I still need shocks but I will use the stock shocks in order to measure the compressed length and make sure I get the best possible shock length. I also need to look into getting boomerang shackles of stock length, or slightly longer but not more than an inch or so.
Just ordered RE1345, 5.5" coils, for only $88 plus free shipping from Amazon and RE1270 2" lift blocks to bring up the rear, $48 also shipped free from Amazon, I still need shocks but I will use the stock shocks in order to measure the compressed length and make sure I get the best possible shock length. I also need to look into getting boomerang shackles of stock length, or slightly longer but not more than an inch or so.
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From: Alamogordo NM
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0

Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.
The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include
blocks.http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx
http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
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From: Summerville, Ga
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 4 cyl.

Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.
The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

You think that breaking your leaf springs is the only problem blocks can cause? Wait till you get those rear tires spinning and feel the wheel hop. When your driveshaft gets slammed through your transfercase you'll regret cheaping out on blocks.
And you're not the only person in the world running blocks, you're just the only one who loves them. I'm running 1.5" solid steel blocks as well, and hate them with a passion. Blocks arent going to make your jeep explode, but they're not good for your leaf springs unless if you only drive your jeep slowly around the mall parking lot.
And my 4 BANGER has enough torque to create wheel hop in the rear end even with my stiff s10 bastard pack. The 4.0 has plenty more power than it needs to destroy the tailshaft of your transfercase.
BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include
blocks.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx
http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
blocks.http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx
http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
Build sheet per the link you provided.
This Product Includes:
(1) T&T Trac-Bar System, <6"
(1) T&T Y-Link Upgrade
(1) T&T 1.5" U-bolt Eliminators
(1) JKSmfg Gen II swaybar disconnects
(1) Boomerang Shackles, 1" Lift
(1) Rear Stainless Steel Brakeline - 24"
(1) Lower Bumpstops spacers - 2"
(1) Drop Pitman Arm
(1) Front Stainless Steel Brakeline - 22"
(1) 3.5" XJ rear leaf springs
(1) 5.5" XJ Front Coil Springs
(1) T&T Trac-Bar System, <6"
(1) T&T Y-Link Upgrade
(1) T&T 1.5" U-bolt Eliminators
(1) JKSmfg Gen II swaybar disconnects
(1) Boomerang Shackles, 1" Lift
(1) Rear Stainless Steel Brakeline - 24"
(1) Lower Bumpstops spacers - 2"
(1) Drop Pitman Arm
(1) Front Stainless Steel Brakeline - 22"
(1) 3.5" XJ rear leaf springs
(1) 5.5" XJ Front Coil Springs
x2. They will literally not even bolt up fully extended.
This overly drawn-out and grammatically incorrect response is brought to you by Insomnia, as well as his good friend Boredom (who i hear are no longer on speaking terms).
Last edited by xj_maniac_newb; May 15, 2013 at 03:31 AM.
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From: Chattanooga
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0

Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.
The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include
blocks.http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx
http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
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From: Kansas City, MO
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0

Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.
The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include
blocks.http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx
http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
Also, the front of your jeep is going to feel like a pogo stick while the back feels like a broke-in caddy. My Rusty's coils and OME medium leafs are much closer in spring rates, but you can still tell the back has a more plush ride...and my setup has softer coils and stiffer leafs than yours.
You got to plan your lift so the parts work together.
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From: Alamogordo NM
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
So is there a rule of thumb regarding matching spring rates between the front and rear springs, the RE coils have a spring rate of 184 lbs/in. and my OME leafs have a rate of 137 lbs/in. which is about a 25% difference I believe whereas the 150 lbs/in. Rusty's springs on the other hand are only 5% stiffer then the OMEs, if my math is correct, which it may not be. At any rate I am seeing now what you mean by the enormous difference between my front and rear spring rates.
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From: Alamogordo NM
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Yet another update, I think that Amazon is going to let me ship the springs back for free, at least there wasent any indication of a shipping charge, I'll just have to wait till just to get the Rusty's springs and spacer, which will cost more than double the RE coils, but such is life.
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From: Manchester, N.H.
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
WOW! nice work cleaning up that interior! I thought my 95 was dirty when i bought it, that drivers seat was downright NASTY! Looking pretty now though.







