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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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JK shocks will not work with 6" of lift
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Anyone here familiar with the Skyjacker Nitro Shocks?
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OnlyinaXJ
Anyone here familiar with the Skyjacker Nitro Shocks?
Some of the worst shocks I've run. About the same as Rancho, RC, pretty much any cheap shock. With all the money you're spending on the lift, why cheap out on shocks? Bilstein is what I'd put on it.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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Just ordered RE1345, 5.5" coils, for only $88 plus free shipping from Amazon and RE1270 2" lift blocks to bring up the rear, $48 also shipped free from Amazon, I still need shocks but I will use the stock shocks in order to measure the compressed length and make sure I get the best possible shock length. I also need to look into getting boomerang shackles of stock length, or slightly longer but not more than an inch or so.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Blocks suck.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OnlyinaXJ
Just ordered RE1345, 5.5" coils, for only $88 plus free shipping from Amazon and RE1270 2" lift blocks to bring up the rear, $48 also shipped free from Amazon, I still need shocks but I will use the stock shocks in order to measure the compressed length and make sure I get the best possible shock length. I also need to look into getting boomerang shackles of stock length, or slightly longer but not more than an inch or so.
wow...
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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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wow...
Indeed lol
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Old May 15, 2013 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Xj88
Blocks suck.


Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.

The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include blocks.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx

http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
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Old May 15, 2013 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by OnlyinaXJ


Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.

The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.


You think that breaking your leaf springs is the only problem blocks can cause? Wait till you get those rear tires spinning and feel the wheel hop. When your driveshaft gets slammed through your transfercase you'll regret cheaping out on blocks.

And you're not the only person in the world running blocks, you're just the only one who loves them. I'm running 1.5" solid steel blocks as well, and hate them with a passion. Blocks arent going to make your jeep explode, but they're not good for your leaf springs unless if you only drive your jeep slowly around the mall parking lot.

And my 4 BANGER has enough torque to create wheel hop in the rear end even with my stiff s10 bastard pack. The 4.0 has plenty more power than it needs to destroy the tailshaft of your transfercase.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include blocks.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx

http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
Only one of those lift kits use blocks.

Build sheet per the link you provided.
This Product Includes:
(1) T&T Trac-Bar System, <6"
(1) T&T Y-Link Upgrade
(1) T&T 1.5" U-bolt Eliminators
(1) JKSmfg Gen II swaybar disconnects
(1) Boomerang Shackles, 1" Lift
(1) Rear Stainless Steel Brakeline - 24"
(1) Lower Bumpstops spacers - 2"
(1) Drop Pitman Arm
(1) Front Stainless Steel Brakeline - 22"
(1) 3.5" XJ rear leaf springs
(1) 5.5" XJ Front Coil Springs
And i'm sure the only reason BDS uses rear blocks is because 8.5" lift leaf springs would have ridiculous arch, and would ride like **** (which would not be good for their claims of "DD'ability" of the lifts that they promote). Which is why they dont provide them with anything other lift they sell besides the gigantic 8.5" lift and their small 1-3" cheap entry level lifts (which they only sell in to makes the lifts a little cheaper to buy).







Originally Posted by Xj88
JK shocks will not work with 6" of lift

x2. They will literally not even bolt up fully extended.



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Old May 15, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by OnlyinaXJ


Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.

The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include blocks.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx

http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
Lol
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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OnlyinaXJ


Thats funny because they are made by Rubicon Express, and their lift kits don't suck, also consider the BDS 8.5" lift kit for the XJ, and oh my gosh! They use a 2" tapered block, how strange. But not to worry I will do more research into the matter, I will get to the bottom of this controversy regarding this widespread bias against lift blocks.

The bottom line is that I am only using a 2" lift block, made of steel, and made by Rubicon Express specifically for the XJ, additionally I am running with OME springs with an overload spring, you are out of your freaking mind if you think that my bone stock 4.0 is going to generate enough torque to break a spring under any condition, so flame on about my blocks all you want.

BTW here are links to two high end XJ lift kits which include blocks.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/Rock-Tek/4...erokee_XJ.aspx

http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...8&yr=1987-2001
Your jeep is going to ride silly. You literally have the softest rear springs and stiffest front springs. The funny thing about the OME "HD" springs with an overload, they're the softest spring they make...until you drop onto the overload spring. So that overload spring or the term "HD" will have zero affect on how your springs handle axle wrap.

Also, the front of your jeep is going to feel like a pogo stick while the back feels like a broke-in caddy. My Rusty's coils and OME medium leafs are much closer in spring rates, but you can still tell the back has a more plush ride...and my setup has softer coils and stiffer leafs than yours.

You got to plan your lift so the parts work together.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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So is there a rule of thumb regarding matching spring rates between the front and rear springs, the RE coils have a spring rate of 184 lbs/in. and my OME leafs have a rate of 137 lbs/in. which is about a 25% difference I believe whereas the 150 lbs/in. Rusty's springs on the other hand are only 5% stiffer then the OMEs, if my math is correct, which it may not be. At any rate I am seeing now what you mean by the enormous difference between my front and rear spring rates.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Yet another update, I think that Amazon is going to let me ship the springs back for free, at least there wasent any indication of a shipping charge, I'll just have to wait till just to get the Rusty's springs and spacer, which will cost more than double the RE coils, but such is life.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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And now for some before and after picts of my progress so far








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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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WOW! nice work cleaning up that interior! I thought my 95 was dirty when i bought it, that drivers seat was downright NASTY! Looking pretty now though.
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