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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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sure, go for it.

but, just remember...it's only a limited slip, not a true locker. pull a tire off the ground and it becomes useless.

but judging by your other thread ill assume you dont really care to much
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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id also like to point out.


that in that picture the front only has 1 tire spinning...and to hard to see the rear

that looks like a fail to me

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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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a true trac is limited slip...it will slip at the worst possible time, when you really want it to pull. Look at the pic you posted, the guy is hammer down, the left side tires are spinning doing no good, if the right sides had power, he might crawl right up.
Why the hating on lunchbox lockers?
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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How did your spiders break?
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lukeandjakejeep
I don't really have experience with this, I'm sure it'll drive in 2wd just fine. Whenever I replace something, I always upgrade it if I have the money. You could just do the spider gears and call it quits. or you could regear to like 4.10 to better accomidate your tires I believe.
Regearing is completely different than just installing new spiders.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Its like 240 for a lunchbox

70 for new spiders.
$250 for aussie or I think $265 for the spartan with hardened cross shaft
dont replace, upgrade. and dont waste your time on a LSD. my buddy tried selling his truetrac for months. I think he had to let it go for $100 just to get rid of it

also I think it's ironic that your spiders broke so you're now being forced to get a locker
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
id also like to point out.


that in that picture the front only has 1 tire spinning...and to hard to see the rear

that looks like a fail to me

Watching the rig it worked quite well. Like I said he made it through this section in half the time of the fully locked rigs. The true trac is supposed to give the power to the wheel with the most traction.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
$250 for aussie or I think $265 for the spartan with hardened cross shaft
dont replace, upgrade. and dont waste your time on a LSD. my buddy tried selling his truetrac for months. I think he had to let it go for $100 just to get rid of it

also I think it's ironic that your spiders broke so you're now being forced to get a locker
Yea, yea I know. You see I told you boys I was making my open axles work like lockers, close to anyways. I wasn't lying. What I did not know was that the spider gears would not hold up to the way I was locking up the diffs. So the front let loose. It was fun while it lasted, and I was getting quite good at it. But oh well. I guess its an upgrade, because I know if I put spiders back in I will drive the same way and tear them up again.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
id also like to point out.


that in that picture the front only has 1 tire spinning...and to hard to see the rear

that looks like a fail to me

Same exact section just down the hill about 10ft, rear tire of red jeep is where the front tire of green jeep is.......fully locked.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Watching the rig it worked quite well. Like I said he made it through this section in half the time of the fully locked rigs. The true trac is supposed to give the power to the wheel with the most traction.
Not really sure how it does that, it's an LSD... and in that picture, that one wheel in the front was spinning pretty good while the other one was stationary. He probably made it in half the time because he was going twice as fast.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Yea, yea I know. You see I told you boys I was making my open axles work like lockers, close to anyways. I wasn't lying. What I did not know was that the spider gears would not hold up to the way I was locking up the diffs. So the front let loose. It was fun while it lasted, and I was getting quite good at it. But oh well. I guess its an upgrade, because I know if I put spiders back in I will drive the same way and tear them up again.
Don't really know how you locked your wheels together unless you made it sort of function like an lsd by being on the brakes and the gas at the same time. This doesn't lock the diffs at all and is harder on everything than a straight up locker.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Same exact section just down the hill about 10ft, rear tire of red jeep is where the front tire of green jeep is.......fully locked.
Is the green jeep stuck?


IB4 you replace the spiders with a real locker and never say anything about lockers again.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mr white
He probably made it in half the time because he was going twice as fast.
x2 the guy that's stuck isnt crawling. he's just hammering down
even if this style works for him, it will not work for a low lift jeep with 32" tires and not enough armor

so just order the locker and lets be done with this haha
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Same exact section just down the hill about 10ft, rear tire of red jeep is where the front tire of green jeep is.......fully locked.
Leaf sprung vs. long arms with coilovers... you do know not everything hinges on your lockers vs. the world argument.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mr white
Don't really know how you locked your wheels together unless you made it sort of function like an lsd by being on the brakes and the gas at the same time. This doesn't lock the diffs at all and is harder on everything than a straight up locker.
To get an open diff to act like a posi is not that complicated. I used to do it in street racing also. In an open axle the power simply takes the path of least resistance. To get both sides to power you equal the pressures either by no pressure or a ton of pressure on both sides.

I learned that If you stand hard on the brake you overide the unequal pressure of the ground. Then you throttle through the brake in short bursts. This momentarily locks both wheels enabling you to climb even if one wheel is in the air.

Like I said I was getting quite good at it. What I did not take into consideration is the stress I was putting on the spider gears. They were not meant to work this way.

Now reading the specs of the true track the power takes the path of most resistance. In otherwords if one tire is in the air, the wheel on the ground gets the power. Definitely a better LSD alternative. So in the picture of the Jeep the wheels spinning are the ones with the most traction. As I said, watching how this thing worked was quite impressive. He just came through the exact same area as the green Jeep. Both got hung up, its a very tough section. Most rigs don't make it locked or not.
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