Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

BLIND AT NIGHT. Headlights

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-22-2018, 04:30 AM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default BLIND AT NIGHT. Headlights

2001 XJ: Low and high beams NOT working! Good fuses. Parking/tail lights are working. Grounds by airbox good. Earlier today, headlight delay was making a buzzing noise. Currently have Inspired Engineering LED's. Could my switch really have failed all of a sudden or something else?? Also blue highbeam indicator does not illuminate when turn signal switch is pushed forward or back.
Old 07-22-2018, 05:17 PM
  #2  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

I must have the million dollar question. Stumped everybody!
Old 07-22-2018, 05:36 PM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
Bugout4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,481
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Not stumped... your turn next... Did you try a new relay? or check the juice to the relays?
Old 07-22-2018, 05:48 PM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
Martlor13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Northern New Mexico
Posts: 3,683
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by danbizzle2009
I must have the million dollar question. Stumped everybody!
its a sunday in sumertime, everyone is out doing things.

the switches are prone to going out, but check fuses and relays as said above.
Old 07-22-2018, 07:48 PM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

I cannot find an actual black relay for the headlights. I have checked the 30amp fuse under the hood as well as those 10a's in the passenger kick panel. I have the headlight switch pulled out currently, was trying to find a way to test and see if that's the problem. I know I'm getting no power to the headlight plugs (lights). Will the headlights work if I unplug the headlight delay module?
Old 07-22-2018, 08:31 PM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
Bugout4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,481
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

You have to pull the knee blocker from under the dash on the driver's side. The relay is located behind this up under the instrument panel. It is a first check as you know. The switch could also be bad if you are not hearing a positive "click" when changing it.
Old 07-22-2018, 08:32 PM
  #7  
CF Veteran
 
Turbo X_J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: ☼ Blackhole Sun
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts
Year: My Jeep is a GMC
Default

Originally Posted by danbizzle2009
I have the headlight switch pulled out currently, was trying to find a way to test and see if that's the problem.
not my pic

Old 07-22-2018, 09:09 PM
  #8  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
You have to pull the knee blocker from under the dash on the driver's side. The relay is located behind this up under the instrument panel. It is a first check as you know. The switch could also be bad if you are not hearing a positive "click" when changing it.
Could you explain this a little more:

My knee panel is removed, what exactly am I looking for and where?
What click are you talking about?

Old 07-22-2018, 10:09 PM
  #9  
CF Veteran
 
Bugout4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,481
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by danbizzle2009
Could you explain this a little more:

My knee panel is removed, what exactly am I looking for and where?
What click are you talking about?
The panel under the driver's side dash and steering wheel needs to come off. Behind that you will find the relay up under the instrument panel. It will be a typical black square relay.

The "click" would be when you pull and change the High/low beam switch. If there is no Click then something is broken in the switch.

Every high/low switch I have come across makes an audible click when changing. Except a few Toyota's Nissans, and VW's over the years.
Old 07-22-2018, 10:41 PM
  #10  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
The panel under the driver's side dash and steering wheel needs to come off. Behind that you will find the relay up under the instrument panel. It will be a typical black square relay.

The "click" would be when you pull and change the High/low beam switch. If there is no Click then something is broken in the switch.

Every high/low switch I have come across makes an audible click when changing. Except a few Toyota's Nissans, and VW's over the years.
I do hear an audible click when I pull the turn signal stalk towards me to activate (or should activate) the highbeams. I don't hear any relay clicks from the passenger floor (idk if i am supposed to though). I think I see the relay you're talking about. Is it located just left/next to the headlight delay module, attached via one of those V headed clips? See next post as well..
Old 07-22-2018, 10:48 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

I took out the headlight switch and jumped it up to the battery. I found the following:
-The switch actually has labeled numbers or letters next to each prong ("U" "B1" "B2" "B3" "P" "H" "D" "I"
-I attached the ground from the neg battery terminal to neg on switch. I attached positive jumper from positive terminal to "U" on switch. Based on diagram above, "U" is 12v from battery. I then used a meter and found the Parking Lights, Dome Lights, and Brake Lights are receiving power (and are working fine). However, when attaching the positive lead to the Headlight prong "H" I get NOTHING on the meter.

I am guessing bad switch? Did I figure this out!!!???!!!???

Old 07-22-2018, 11:21 PM
  #12  
CF Veteran
 
Bugout4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,481
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by danbizzle2009
I took out the headlight switch and jumped it up to the battery. I found the following:
-The switch actually has labeled numbers or letters next to each prong ("U" "B1" "B2" "B3" "P" "H" "D" "I"
-I attached the ground from the neg battery terminal to neg on switch. I attached positive jumper from positive terminal to "U" on switch. Based on diagram above, "U" is 12v from battery. I then used a meter and found the Parking Lights, Dome Lights, and Brake Lights are receiving power (and are working fine). However, when attaching the positive lead to the Headlight prong "H" I get NOTHING on the meter.

I am guessing bad switch? Did I figure this out!!!???!!!???

Sure sounds like you got it man. It wouldn't be the first time a working new part was actually a bad not working part. lol. Please let us know if this was it!
Old 07-23-2018, 02:40 PM
  #13  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

New switch, same problem Still fecked. Where are all the ground locations for the headlights?
could this be the headlight delay module (as it was buzzing loudly), or turn signal switch?
Old 07-23-2018, 04:32 PM
  #14  
CF Veteran
 
Turbo X_J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: ☼ Blackhole Sun
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts
Year: My Jeep is a GMC
Default

Let's go at this a different way:
Originally Posted by danbizzle2009
2001 XJ: Low and high beams NOT working!
Have they ever?

Does this vehicle have DRL?
Old 07-25-2018, 02:55 PM
  #15  
Member
Thread Starter
 
danbizzle2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Maine
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Default

Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
Let's go at this a different way:


Have they ever?

Does this vehicle have DRL?
Yes of coarse they have worked . No to DRLs.


Quick Reply: BLIND AT NIGHT. Headlights



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:59 PM.