Inverted y is just bad geometry.

 

True. Guess my point was in bigger rocks its nicer to have an over the knuckle kit vs y link since your tie rod would be up higher. less chance of bending from an impact or mistake. not so much that the set up is stronger.

 

If you run a stock setup when you're lifted it is. Stock it isn't bad at all, neither is the currie setup. MUCH better steering feel than inverted T.

 

Huh? When you turn, it pulls up, notice when you are on flat ground, turn your wheels, and one side raises.... Yuck.

 

What type of steering is the Serious Offroad kit (UTK) considered?

 

1-Ton, just like the name says.

 

I honestly don't know what it's called. The difference is the drag link and tierod. On inverted y, the draglink connects to pass. Side knuckle and pitman, and tie rod goes from driver side knuckle to drag link.

Serious tierod goes from knuckle to knuckle, drag link goes from tierod to pitman.

 

Okay, I didn't know if it fell into a category such as inverted T or the like

 

Thanks Frank

 

Inverted T

 

Are you talking about the Serious? If that is the category it falls under, I see inverted t being soooo much better than inverted y.

 

It's soooo bad it was only put on millions of XJs, ZJs, and TJs

Ya. My steering is technically "1 ton" but it isn't inverted T.

 

They could put it on every vehicle in the world, doesn't mean it's good. Bad geometry is bad geometry. It works fine, but it's crap. Argue till your face turns blue.

I never clarified my thought process, I think it's fine for stock vehicles. Once you start lifting, and bigger tires, and all that, it just doesn't compare.

 

Whats a reamer?

 

Bingo! Auto makers put the cheapest easiest setup on their cars not the best. Except the higher end ones... hence why the WJ had crossover steering and the V8 ZJ has a bigger solid tie rod. I don't think it's even "fine" for stock vehicles honestly, it works, but it's not "fine"...

The issue with any inverted Y setup is that as the suspension travels so does the drag link, and since the tie rods is connected to the drag link so does the tie rod. When you go over a rock or bump the toe changes and it can cause bump steer, bad tire wear etc...

Inverted T steering makes the tie rod go from knuckle to knuckle, wicked removes all of those issues except bump steer, but that can be fixed with the proper Pittman arm height.

Tie rods are mounted into a tapered hole (bigger at one end than the other) and are tapered themselves. A reamer is simply a tapered drill bit. 1 ton tie rods are bigger than in your jeep, so you have to have a reamer to make them bigger... very simple to do but you can not do it without a reamer and they run you about 80-90 bucks...