baby seat latch
05-04-2012, 10:39 AM
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baby seat latch
For all the dad out there, what you do with your xj? It doesn't come with one...
I prefer latch instead of seatbelt for the baby seat. I even consider welding one in if its advisable.
I prefer latch instead of seatbelt for the baby seat. I even consider welding one in if its advisable.
05-04-2012, 10:52 AM
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Depends on what year you have, like almost any older vehicle they didnt either come with them, but newer updated ones do, out 95 did, come to think of it so did the 96.
05-04-2012, 10:53 AM
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I just use the middle seat with lap belt. For the base it works perfect. Haven't put the convert seat in yet though. Also easier with my stock jeep getting her in and out as to the lifted one.
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We used the middle at first, but only because that was easier for me reach over to him, and I felt was safest spot in jeep. But the was as while in rear facing seat. As soon as he was able to be turned around in car seat, the shoulder blet was just fine never a problem, just strap in as tight as u can get it, and use the saftey clip thing that comes with car seat just for mommies peace of mind.
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Found this.
The dealer should install tether anchors for free! see attached:
TSB#
23-029-08
TSB#
23-029-08
DISCUSSION:
User-ready child restraint tether strap anchors will be provided in passenger cars in the
2000 Model Year, and in light trucks in the 2001 Model Year and later. Tether straps
improve the performance of child restraints in collisions. Because of the publicity that has
accompanied the "Fit for a Kid" Program, owners of earlier products are expected to
approach dealers for the
2000 Model Year, and in light trucks in the 2001 Model Year and later. Tether straps
improve the performance of child restraints in collisions. Because of the publicity that has
accompanied the "Fit for a Kid" Program, owners of earlier products are expected to
approach dealers for the
free provision and installation of the anchor hardware.
Chrysler is offering child seat tether anchors for the selected vehicles listed above. Each
tether anchor is packaged in a kit containing all necessary parts and a detailed instruction
sheet.
tether anchor is packaged in a kit containing all necessary parts and a detailed instruction
sheet.
NOTE: This bulletin is provided to identify the parts and labor operation numbers
necessary to install a Child Seat Tether Anchor. Each dealer is encouraged to
install these kits based on customer request and Chrysler will reimburse any
Chrysler / Dodge / or Jeep dealer installing these kits regardless of vehicle
age or mileage.
necessary to install a Child Seat Tether Anchor. Each dealer is encouraged to
install these kits based on customer request and Chrysler will reimburse any
Chrysler / Dodge / or Jeep dealer installing these kits regardless of vehicle
age or mileage.
23-029-08 -2-
PARTS REQUIRED:
BODY MODEL YEAR CENTER OUTBOARD
AA Lebaron Sedan/Spirit/Acclaim 89 - 95 04519071AB 04519071AB
AB Ram Wagon 89 - 00 04358469AB 04358469AB
AC New Yorker/Landau/Dynasty 89 - 93 04519073AB 04519072AB
AG Daytona 89 - 90 NA 05003422AB
AG Daytona 91 - 94 NA 04519074AB
AH Lancer/Lebaron GTS 1989 04519076AB 05003422AB
AJ LeBaron Coupe 89 - 93 04519077AB 04519077AB
AK Aries/Reliant 89 - 90 04519077AB 04519077AB
AL Horizon/Omni 89 - 90 04519081AB 04519080AB
AM Diplomat/Gran Fury/New Yorker Fifth
Avenue
1989 04519077AB 04519077AB
AN Dakota 88 - 99 05014765AA 05014765AA
AN Dakota, AN84 2000 05016573AA 05016573AA
AN Dakota, Extended Cab 2000 05016572AA 05016572AA
AN Dakota, Standard Cab 2000 05017683AC 05017683AC
AP Shadow/Sundance 89 - 94 04519292AB 04519292AB
AS Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager 89 - 95 05017529AB 05017529AB
AY Imperial/New Yorker Fifth Avenue 90 - 93 04519071AB 04519071AB
BB Monaco/Premier 89 - 92 04519077AB 04519077AB
BD Laser/Talon 90 - 94
Anchor MB590094 MB590094
Bolt MF140227 MF140227
Bracket Left MB593349 MB593349
Bracket Right MB593350 MB593350
BR/BE Ram Truck, Built Prior To Sept. 20,
2000
94 - 01 05017032AB 05017032AB
B2 Colt/Summit 89 - 92
4-Door MB597261 MB612814
2-Door MB865730 MB597261
B3 Vista 92 - 95 MB583400 MB583400
B5 Chrysler Conquest 87 - 89 MB597261 MB597261
B7 2000GTX Dodge/Eagle-Canada 89 - 91 MB597261 MB597261
Stealth 92 - 95 MB597261 MB597261
-3- 23-029-08
B8 Colt Vista/Summit Wagon 92 - 95 MB583400 MB583400
B9 Colt/Summit 93 - 94
4-Door MB865730 MB865730
2-Door MB597261 MB597261
DN Durango 98 - 00
Standard Seat (60/40) NA 05015403AA
40/20/40 Seat 05012007AB
FJ Avenger/Sebring 95 - 99 MB597261 MB612814
FJ Talon 95 - 97 MB583400 MB583400
JA Breeze.Cirrus/Stratus 95 - 99 04519077AB 04519077AB
LH Intrepid/Concorde/Vision 93 - 99 04519077AB 04519077AB
New Yorker/LHS 94 - 97 04519077 05017645AA
LHS/300M 1999 04519077AB 04519077AB
NS Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager 96 - 00
2nd Row Seats 04864118AB 04864118AB
3rd Row Seats 05018506AA 05018506AA
PL Neon, Built Prior To July 26, 1999 95 - 00 05017563AB 05017563AB
PR Prowler 97 - 99 NA 05017570AA
SR Viper 96 - 99 NA 04883004AB
TJ Wrangler 2000 NA 05066347AA
WJ Jeep Grand Cherokee - Canada 99 - 00 NA 05016871AA,
Camel Trim
05016873AA,
Taupe Trim
WJ Jeep Grand Cherokee - US 99 - 00 NA 05016869AA,
Camel Trim
05016870AA,
Taupe Trim
XJ Jeep Cherokee 89 - 99 NA 05003422AB
2000 NA 05066385AA
ZJ Jeep Grand Cherokee/Grand
Wagoneer
93 - 98 04728952AB NA
23-029-08 -4-
AA Lebaron Sedan/Spirit/Acclaim 89 - 95 04519071AB 04519071AB
AB Ram Wagon 89 - 00 04358469AB 04358469AB
AC New Yorker/Landau/Dynasty 89 - 93 04519073AB 04519072AB
AG Daytona 89 - 90 NA 05003422AB
AG Daytona 91 - 94 NA 04519074AB
AH Lancer/Lebaron GTS 1989 04519076AB 05003422AB
AJ LeBaron Coupe 89 - 93 04519077AB 04519077AB
AK Aries/Reliant 89 - 90 04519077AB 04519077AB
AL Horizon/Omni 89 - 90 04519081AB 04519080AB
AM Diplomat/Gran Fury/New Yorker Fifth
Avenue
1989 04519077AB 04519077AB
AN Dakota 88 - 99 05014765AA 05014765AA
AN Dakota, AN84 2000 05016573AA 05016573AA
AN Dakota, Extended Cab 2000 05016572AA 05016572AA
AN Dakota, Standard Cab 2000 05017683AC 05017683AC
AP Shadow/Sundance 89 - 94 04519292AB 04519292AB
AS Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager 89 - 95 05017529AB 05017529AB
AY Imperial/New Yorker Fifth Avenue 90 - 93 04519071AB 04519071AB
BB Monaco/Premier 89 - 92 04519077AB 04519077AB
BD Laser/Talon 90 - 94
Anchor MB590094 MB590094
Bolt MF140227 MF140227
Bracket Left MB593349 MB593349
Bracket Right MB593350 MB593350
BR/BE Ram Truck, Built Prior To Sept. 20,
2000
94 - 01 05017032AB 05017032AB
B2 Colt/Summit 89 - 92
4-Door MB597261 MB612814
2-Door MB865730 MB597261
B3 Vista 92 - 95 MB583400 MB583400
B5 Chrysler Conquest 87 - 89 MB597261 MB597261
B7 2000GTX Dodge/Eagle-Canada 89 - 91 MB597261 MB597261
Stealth 92 - 95 MB597261 MB597261
-3- 23-029-08
B8 Colt Vista/Summit Wagon 92 - 95 MB583400 MB583400
B9 Colt/Summit 93 - 94
4-Door MB865730 MB865730
2-Door MB597261 MB597261
DN Durango 98 - 00
Standard Seat (60/40) NA 05015403AA
40/20/40 Seat 05012007AB
FJ Avenger/Sebring 95 - 99 MB597261 MB612814
FJ Talon 95 - 97 MB583400 MB583400
JA Breeze.Cirrus/Stratus 95 - 99 04519077AB 04519077AB
LH Intrepid/Concorde/Vision 93 - 99 04519077AB 04519077AB
New Yorker/LHS 94 - 97 04519077 05017645AA
LHS/300M 1999 04519077AB 04519077AB
NS Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager 96 - 00
2nd Row Seats 04864118AB 04864118AB
3rd Row Seats 05018506AA 05018506AA
PL Neon, Built Prior To July 26, 1999 95 - 00 05017563AB 05017563AB
PR Prowler 97 - 99 NA 05017570AA
SR Viper 96 - 99 NA 04883004AB
TJ Wrangler 2000 NA 05066347AA
WJ Jeep Grand Cherokee - Canada 99 - 00 NA 05016871AA,
Camel Trim
05016873AA,
Taupe Trim
WJ Jeep Grand Cherokee - US 99 - 00 NA 05016869AA,
Camel Trim
05016870AA,
Taupe Trim
XJ Jeep Cherokee 89 - 99 NA 05003422AB
2000 NA 05066385AA
ZJ Jeep Grand Cherokee/Grand
Wagoneer
93 - 98 04728952AB NA
23-029-08 -4-
POLICY:
Customer Satisfaction, Reimbursable regardless of mileage or age.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation
No:
Description Vehicle/Year Allowance
23-13-12-90 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install One
1989-1995 (AA) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AG,AP) 0.2 Hrs.
1989 (AH,AM) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AJ) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1990 (AK, AL) 0.2 Hrs.
1988-1992 ((BB) 0.2 Hrs.
1994-2001 (BR/BE) 0.2 Hrs.
1998-2000 (DN) 0.2 Hrs.
1995-1999 (JA) 0.2 Hrs.
1995-2000 (PL) 0.2 Hrs.
1996-1999 (SR) 0.2 Hrs.
2000 (TJ) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AC) 0.3 Hrs.
1990-1993 (AY) 0.3 Hrs.
1995-1999 (FJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1993-1999 (LH) 0.3 Hrs.
2000 (XJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AS) 0.4 Hrs.
1996-2000 (NS) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1999 (XJ) 0.4 Hrs.
1993-1998 (ZJ) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AB) 0.5 Hrs.
1989-1995 (B7) A/T
1990-1994 (BD) A/T
1989-1992 (B2) A/T
1992-1995 (B3,B8) A/T
1989 (B5) A/T
1993-1994 (B9) A/T
1999-2000 (PR) A/T
-5- 23-029-08
23-13-12-91 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install Two
1994-2001 (BR/BE) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-2000 (DN) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AA) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AG) 0.3 Hrs.
1989 (AH, AM) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1990 (AK, AL) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AP) 0.3 Hrs.
1988-1992 (BB) 0.3 Hrs.
1995-1999 (JA) 0.3 Hrs.
1995-2000 (PL) 0.3 Hrs.
1999-2000 (WJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AC) 0.4 Hrs.
1990-1993 (AY) 0.4 Hrs.
1993-1999 (LH) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AS) 0.5 Hrs.
1996-2000 (NS) 0.5 Hrs.
1989-1999 (XJ) 0.6 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AB) 0.7 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AN) 1.0 Hrs.
23-13-12-92 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install Three
1994-2001 (BR/BE) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AA) 0.4 Hrs.
1989 (AH, AM) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AJ) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1990 (AK, AL) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AP) 0.4 Hrs.
1988-1992 (BB) 0.4 Hrs.
1995-1999 (JA) 0.4 Hrs.
1995 2000 (PL) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AC) 0.5 Hrs.
1990-1993 (AY) 0.5 Hrs.
1993-1999 (LH) 0.5 Hrs.
1996-2000 (NS) 0.6 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AN) 1.2 Hrs.
23-029-08 -6-
23-13-12-93 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install One - Third Seat
1996-2000 (NS) 0.3 Hrs.
23-13-12-94 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install Two Or Three - Third
Seat
1996-200 (NS) 0.4 Hrs.
No:
Description Vehicle/Year Allowance
23-13-12-90 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install One
1989-1995 (AA) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AG,AP) 0.2 Hrs.
1989 (AH,AM) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AJ) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1990 (AK, AL) 0.2 Hrs.
1988-1992 ((BB) 0.2 Hrs.
1994-2001 (BR/BE) 0.2 Hrs.
1998-2000 (DN) 0.2 Hrs.
1995-1999 (JA) 0.2 Hrs.
1995-2000 (PL) 0.2 Hrs.
1996-1999 (SR) 0.2 Hrs.
2000 (TJ) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AC) 0.3 Hrs.
1990-1993 (AY) 0.3 Hrs.
1995-1999 (FJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1993-1999 (LH) 0.3 Hrs.
2000 (XJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AS) 0.4 Hrs.
1996-2000 (NS) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1999 (XJ) 0.4 Hrs.
1993-1998 (ZJ) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AB) 0.5 Hrs.
1989-1995 (B7) A/T
1990-1994 (BD) A/T
1989-1992 (B2) A/T
1992-1995 (B3,B8) A/T
1989 (B5) A/T
1993-1994 (B9) A/T
1999-2000 (PR) A/T
-5- 23-029-08
23-13-12-91 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install Two
1994-2001 (BR/BE) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-2000 (DN) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AA) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AG) 0.3 Hrs.
1989 (AH, AM) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1990 (AK, AL) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AP) 0.3 Hrs.
1988-1992 (BB) 0.3 Hrs.
1995-1999 (JA) 0.3 Hrs.
1995-2000 (PL) 0.3 Hrs.
1999-2000 (WJ) 0.3 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AC) 0.4 Hrs.
1990-1993 (AY) 0.4 Hrs.
1993-1999 (LH) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AS) 0.5 Hrs.
1996-2000 (NS) 0.5 Hrs.
1989-1999 (XJ) 0.6 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AB) 0.7 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AN) 1.0 Hrs.
23-13-12-92 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install Three
1994-2001 (BR/BE) 0.2 Hrs.
1989-1995 (AA) 0.4 Hrs.
1989 (AH, AM) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AJ) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1990 (AK, AL) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1994 (AP) 0.4 Hrs.
1988-1992 (BB) 0.4 Hrs.
1995-1999 (JA) 0.4 Hrs.
1995 2000 (PL) 0.4 Hrs.
1989-1993 (AC) 0.5 Hrs.
1990-1993 (AY) 0.5 Hrs.
1993-1999 (LH) 0.5 Hrs.
1996-2000 (NS) 0.6 Hrs.
1989-2000 (AN) 1.2 Hrs.
23-029-08 -6-
23-13-12-93 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install One - Third Seat
1996-2000 (NS) 0.3 Hrs.
23-13-12-94 Anchor, Child Seat Tether -
Install Two Or Three - Third
Seat
1996-200 (NS) 0.4 Hrs.
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05-04-2012, 06:37 PM
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Mine has 3 lap belts in the back. It works on the convertible seats IMO better than the shoulder belts do. I actually made some in and old VW van I had It works great when they were in there rear facing seats.
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05-09-2012, 10:38 AM
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Thanks for the info! Called my local Jeep dealership today and nobody know what it is about. I think I have to head to their dealership to "fight" for it.
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Hello,
Adding ISOFIX and Tether mounts are not as easy as one would think.
Yes they are 2 elements, and not the same thing.
They are designed to be used together.
Tether can be used with the seatbelt also.
The purpose of Tether is to secure the top of the child seat and stop it from moving.
The lower anchor, depending on type (seatbelt, ISO fix) acts as a rotation point, when Tether is not used, causing a whiplash effect.
This is assuming things are installed correctly and without slack in the system.
FMVSS 225 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard ) Found in the Federal Register (FA) under the D.O.T. section (Department Of Transportation) outlines dimentional, location and Strength requirements of the ISO fix and Tether attachments.
The load requirements for testing is very HIGH.
Just welding wire to the floor of your Jeep will not pass, and will endager the infant.
Please use the Belts, as provided and adjust them correctly.
Some models have the structural components in the body, to be retrofitted with Tether and these are what the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) refers to, but not all.
Please be SAFE.
Nitro
PurpleGG
FYI - See definition below.
"ISOFIX is the international standard for attachment points for child safety seats in passenger cars. The system has various other regional names including LATCH ("Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children") in the United States and LUAS ("Lower Universal Anchorage System") or Canfix in Canada.[1] It has also been called the "Universal Child Safety Seat System" or UCSSS."
Adding ISOFIX and Tether mounts are not as easy as one would think.
Yes they are 2 elements, and not the same thing.
They are designed to be used together.
Tether can be used with the seatbelt also.
The purpose of Tether is to secure the top of the child seat and stop it from moving.
The lower anchor, depending on type (seatbelt, ISO fix) acts as a rotation point, when Tether is not used, causing a whiplash effect.
This is assuming things are installed correctly and without slack in the system.
FMVSS 225 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard ) Found in the Federal Register (FA) under the D.O.T. section (Department Of Transportation) outlines dimentional, location and Strength requirements of the ISO fix and Tether attachments.
The load requirements for testing is very HIGH.
Just welding wire to the floor of your Jeep will not pass, and will endager the infant.
Please use the Belts, as provided and adjust them correctly.
Some models have the structural components in the body, to be retrofitted with Tether and these are what the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) refers to, but not all.
Please be SAFE.
Nitro
PurpleGG
FYI - See definition below.
"ISOFIX is the international standard for attachment points for child safety seats in passenger cars. The system has various other regional names including LATCH ("Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children") in the United States and LUAS ("Lower Universal Anchorage System") or Canfix in Canada.[1] It has also been called the "Universal Child Safety Seat System" or UCSSS."
Last edited by nitro450exp; 05-09-2012 at 11:47 AM.
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