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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
I dont see the appeal of the waggy front axle. wider than stock so you'll probably run spacers rear, 6 lug so now you're definitely running conversion spacers rear, low pinion, and I dont know about wherever you're at. but here, good luck finding spare waggy shafts at the JY


not saying it's a bad axle. just different. interesting choice of swap for sure. I'd rather just do half tons 44/fw8.8 or 44/9

anyway slim you've got a lot of home work to do before you decide to swap anything bud
I chose a Wagoneer 44 because it's not full width. I can't stand full width axles where I wheel. Once you convert the 6-lug to 5-lug you're set. You can match the 5-lug bolt pattern on the back with either adapters or a custom shaft.

The low pinion part... Honestly, not once have I ever said to myself, "Man, if only I had a high pinion axle I would have made it over that obstacle." I've never broke a R&P on it. Ground clearance is nearly a moot point. It may be 2 inches different.

Yes, a High pinion 44 center narrowed down to Wagoneer width is where it's at. I'd like to have that set-up but the high pinion wasn't worth the extra work at the time to me.

Wagoneer shafts are pretty easy to find around here. I have 2 sets at the house now.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 01:40 PM
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U can also run the waggy rear 44 if you dont want to mess with adapters 6 lug wheels are a dime a dozen
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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That too.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
I chose a Wagoneer 44 because it's not full width. I can't stand full width axles where I wheel. Once you convert the 6-lug to 5-lug you're set. You can match the 5-lug bolt pattern on the back with either adapters or a custom shaft.

The low pinion part... Honestly, not once have I ever said to myself, "Man, if only I had a high pinion axle I would have made it over that obstacle." I've never broke a R&P on it. Ground clearance is nearly a moot point. It may be 2 inches different.

Yes, a High pinion 44 center narrowed down to Wagoneer width is where it's at. I'd like to have that set-up but the high pinion wasn't worth the extra work at the time to me.

Wagoneer shafts are pretty easy to find around here. I have 2 sets at the house now.
I dont really think I'm a fan of full width either from watching them in action. they're just monsters. but the half ton 44 is what like 2" wider than waggy? 65" doesnt seem too too bad.

low pinion isn't about ground clearance for me. I think high pinion belongs up front just for the reduced gear deflection. but I've never seen low pinion be a problem. also driveline angle. it's interesting watching a low pinion axle at full droop

like I said. I just dont see the appeal of a waggy axle. certainly not a bad swap. just not a direction I'd go
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
I dont really think I'm a fan of full width either from watching them in action. they're just monsters. but the half ton 44 is what like 2" wider than waggy? 65" doesnt seem too too bad.

low pinion isn't about ground clearance for me. I think high pinion belongs up front just for the reduced gear deflection. but I've never seen low pinion be a problem. also driveline angle. it's interesting watching a low pinion axle at full droop

like I said. I just dont see the appeal of a waggy axle. certainly not a bad swap. just not a direction I'd go
No, I wouldn't want a Waggy 44 on a sky high rig. Pinion angles would blow. I trussed the bejesus out of mine to fight gear deflection.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2

No, I wouldn't want a Waggy 44 on a sky high rig. Pinion angles would blow. I trussed the bejesus out of mine to fight gear deflection.
Newb question what gear deflection?
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim357
Newb question what gear deflection?
when the housing and/or carrier is under stress they deflect, so the pinion and ring gear moving towards/away from each other... this makes things go boom.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI

when the housing and/or carrier is under stress they deflect, so the pinion and ring gear moving towards/away from each other... this makes things go boom.
Damn is there any real way to avoid this?
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim357

Newb question what gear deflection?
In An lp housing when the ring and pinion mesh under load actually push apart, hp pulls together, you can strip teeth on the gears that's why you truss to keep the axle from flexing. (something like that)
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrelmaker

In An lp housing when the ring and pinion mesh under load actually push apart, hp pulls together, you can strip teeth on the gears that's why you truss to keep the axle from flexing. (something like that)
I gotcha I thought trussing one was to keep from bending axle tubes.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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That to...
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim357
Damn is there any real way to avoid this?
full case carriers (detroit, OX, ARB, etc), HD diff covers (riddler, ruffstuff, etc) and a truss tied into the pumpkin all help.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI

full case carriers (detroit, OX, ARB, etc), HD diff covers (riddler, ruffstuff, etc) and a truss tied into the pumpkin all help.
Gotcha sadly idk when Ill ever have the money for an ARB or one that is a full case set up :/
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Detroits only like 600 bucks.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Trutrac is even less
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