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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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Just get a set of BFG AT or MTs in the same size they are both great tires for on and offroad
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DJeXeCute
Just get a set of BFG AT or MTs in the same size they are both great tires for on and offroad
It's not the tires that's the problem... I've already ordered the new tires. We need to know what Backspacing will give this same stance. I'm going to try 4.5 and go from there I guess

The truck already has SYE installed👍🏻
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Old Jun 29, 2021 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Steelhumm
New here, posted this question in longer form in the forum but after reading this Sticky figured it might belong here instead so mods feel free to delete the other one if it's not in the correct spot.

I just bought this xj for my son to be his first rig. We didn't want the boggers on it cause they are dry rotted and are a horrible road tire so the seller is throwing on the stockers for us to drive the Jeep home. My son really wants the same stance with the new wheels and tires we buy. All the seller knows is that the wheels are 15/10 and the tires a 33x12.5. Does anyone have a similar stance on their rig and know what backspace/offset I should look for?

Thanks in advance
If you are keeping the rim then tire replacement has no impact on offset. If you want to measure the offset then lay the rim face down on the ground, measure from the ground to the back of center (X) then measure from the ground to center line of the rim (Y). X-Y= offset.
By the way, nice gift for a new driver, would you consider adopting me?

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Old Jul 7, 2021 | 07:20 PM
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Just bought a '94 XJ with an unknown lift, I'm thinking maybe 4"? Is there any way to measure or tell what size lift you have? This thing is leaning to the right, another forum member suspected it was the back springs. The front looks like it has new springs and shocks, the back end not so much. And there was another set of shocks in the back, looked to be longer? Not sure where to even start with this to find out what is causing the lean?
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Old Jul 8, 2021 | 01:42 PM
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Default Lift installation with the Upcountry Package 98 XJ

So I’ve got a 98 Cherokee sport with the stock Upcountry Package. It’s got the LSD, Tow hooks, skid plates, and the factory 1 inch lift. I’m planning on getting a 2 or 3 inch lift kit for it. I wasn’t sure how it would work with the factory 1 inch lift though. Will a 2 inch lift kit make it 3 inches total? I’ve never done this before so I really have no idea. I was thinking of getting the BDS lift kit. Is that one good? Also what kind of tires would you recommend? I was thinking Falken Wildpeak 30/9.5 r15 A/T3W. Thanks for any input!!!
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Old Jul 10, 2021 | 07:56 PM
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OME 2" lift with 30" 235/75/r16 Hankook tires in Death Valley

OME Front Springs for a 2" lift (actual 2-1/4" on my XJ)

OME front springs with 1-1/2" spacer to replace the stock 1/2" spacer ( actual net lift = 3-1/4" on my XJ)

ARB's Old Man Emu lift kit for XJ'.s offer great shocks and quality springs that are guaranteed for 3 years = no sagging springs after just one season !

For a 2 " lift (actual on my XJ is 2-1/4" ) simply remove one leaf spring from the rear pack = 235/75/r16 (30" tires, actual 29.7)

For a 3" lift (actual on my XJ is 3-1/4") retain the entire leaf pack and add a 1-1/2" spacer/seat to replace the stock 1/2" spacer/seat to the front = 245/75/r16 (31" tires, actual 30.5)

For overlanding with a lot of weight or towing - just place the entire leaf pack on the back and the front springs without a spacer = 2" front and 3" rear lift unloaded.

either way you get the best ride in the most reliable lift

Not cheep - but worth it

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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 10:53 AM
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So I’ve got a 98 Cherokee sport with the stock Upcountry Package. It’s got the LSD, Tow hooks, skid plates, and the factory 1 inch lift. I’m planning on getting a 2 or 3 inch lift kit for it. I wasn’t sure how it would work with the factory 1 inch lift though. Will a 2 inch lift kit make it 3 inches total? I’ve never done this before so I really have no idea. I was thinking of getting the BDS lift kit. Is that one good? Also what kind of tires would you recommend? I was thinking Falken Wildpeak 30/9.5 r15 A/T3W. Thanks for any input!!!
It's my understanding that a lift kit that replaces the springs front and rear will net the same lift in an up-country as any other XJ ; so a 2" kit will net 2" pending the weight of your Jeep. 30" tires are the limit for a 2" lift and 31's for a 3" . Note that shackle's and spacers seldom work for long on 23 year old springs. Replace the springs and track bar and you'll be MUCH happier
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TrevorNelson
Ok, so i have a stock xj sport 4D 4WD and i was wondering what all do i need for a 2-3 inch lift. I plan on painting my stock rims black and buying some 31's-33's inch tires. I have seen lots of different prices of lifts and things. But what are ALL The components i will need for a lift kit??
You'll need an adjustable track bar and longer brake lines minimum. Lower control arms like the ones from Rubicon Express are great on a 2 " lift but needed to get the most out of a 3" lift . 30" tires for a 2" lift and 31's for a 3" lift if you don't want them to rub or trim the finders. This is a good time to rebuild the reast of the front end to.
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Trent Combs
My first post here, or on any Jeep forum. I'm new to the Cherokee world, having just purchased a 1993 4dr XJ, 4.0L automatic 4x4. The old girl has 277k miles on the original drivetrain, almost all on pavement. It's got a 2" economy lift and 16" Moab package wheels, otherwise stock. We intend to tow it behind our motorhome, and do some mild off-road trails. .
If you are going to use it as a TOAD make sure your bumper is stiff enough, (not a cheapie) and reinforce the frame where the bumper attaches if you don't want to see your bumperless jeep pass you on the road. My TOAD attaches via a tow bar to a piece of tune steel installed between the frame rails with a mount for a trailer hitch/winch. The tow bars that incorporate a damper are pricy but a lot nicer than the standard tow bars and if you spring for brakes that is even better with the class
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 07:02 PM
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I have a 2000 XJ that I bought bone stock during the pandemic and have been converting/upgrading it for overlanding purposes. After sleeping in the back of it for a week last fall during a trip around central and eastern Oregon I'm ready for a roof top tent. I installed a Rubicon 2" budget lift and 31" BFGs. I get a slight rub on the back of the rear tires when off road and plan to shave the back side of the rear fender wells a bit to accommodate. Adding the weight of the tent (and other gear) the back of the XJ will sag. Are there good solutions to help the XJ sit level when loaded? Thanks in advance. Appreciate the help from this forum.
There is no easy way to do this, but lifting the rear about an inch taller then the front will allow you to carry several hundred pounds of gear and set level when loaded. HEAVY duty springs and shocks like Old Man Emu are your best bet. 31 " tires shouldn't rub with a 3" lift , but you'll have to trim and adjust bump-stops for 245/75/r16's with a 2" lift.

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Old Jul 13, 2021 | 07:40 AM
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How does the old man emu lift ride when the cargo area is empty?
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Old Jul 13, 2021 | 07:54 AM
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OME is considered ne of the premiere lift packages
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Old Jul 13, 2021 | 08:38 AM
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If you lift the back 3" (the entire leaf pack ) It will ride just a little stiffer then with the 2" - In general, OEM shocks and springs ride better then stockARB's Old Man Emu lift kit for XJ'.s offer great shocks and quality springs that are guaranteed for 3 years = no sagging springs after just one season !

For a 2 " lift (actual on my XJ is 2-1/4" ) simply remove one leaf spring from the rear pack = 235/75/r16 (30" tires, actual 29.7)

For a 3" lift (actual on my XJ is 3-1/4") retain the entire leaf pack and add a 1" spacer to the front = 245/75/r16 (31" tires, actual 30.5)

For overlanding with a lot of weight or towing - just place the entire leaf pack on the back and the front springs without a spacer = 2" front and 3" rear lift unloaded.

either way you get the best ride in the most reliable lift

Not cheep - but worth it

Before you go roof-top tent, you might try tent camping for overland first - I'm in my 60's and we still find a 3 man dome tent does all we need :

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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 01:12 PM
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Default SYE on a 2WD?

I have a 2000 xj sport 2WD and I’m planning on installing the

RE 3.5 Super Ride Lift
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I’m definitely pretty new to this stuff and I am having some trouble in my research trying to see if I need an SYE or not. I’m trying to get everything ready and planned out before I start buying things. I know I need the lift, (duh,) some shocks, longer brake lines, (rear line extension comes with the kit,) and possible SYE and a new driveshaft.

my main questions are:

1. Am I missing anything else I would need for a successful installation?
2. Is there anything I don’t need that I have listed? (SYE especially)

thanks in advance
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 04:06 PM
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this my be mute, but your lifting a 2wd? I assume your doing this for looks rather then jeep trails? Why not do a 3" lift and save the cost of a new drive-shaft. Put the same 31" tires on it and it will look just as good on the bulivard

My 4WD with a 3" lift and 31 inch tires
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