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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 11:03 PM
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The bolt is an ISO Class 10.8 M10x1.5 75mm. OE is flanged head with the flag nut for factory speed but you can use normal hardware with hardened washers. This is the same hardware that secures the UCAs.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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I have a guy (local to me) with a 2.5" lift for a 2001 WJ. His add lists it as a suspension for a Cherokee, so if course I called to check if he meant a WJ or XJ.

He told me its for a WJ, but INSISTS that it will fit my 01' XJ no problem.
It'll bolt right up and I'll just net 3"-3.5" instead of 2.5". I've never heard this, but I'm new-ish to XJs. When I mentioned that I never heard about the suspensions being direct bolt ups (I heard that I can do a bastard pack with them) He gave me one of the "Oh absolutely, I've done it tons of time, I just never got around to installing this one in MY cherokee because....." lines.

I've been searching this forum on and off for the past few days (mostly the "Budget Build" sticky) to try and confirm what he said...but I haven't been able to.
I'm thinking that I can't conform because the guy doesn't know what he's talking about (or he doesn't mind screwing someone over to make a quick buck).

So, basically can I install WJ leaf springs and coils (and shocks) in a 2001 XJ without any modifications to either?
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepDVL45
I have a guy (local to me) with a 2.5" lift for a 2001 WJ. His add lists it as a suspension for a Cherokee, so if course I called to check if he meant a WJ or XJ.

He told me its for a WJ, but INSISTS that it will fit my 01' XJ no problem.
It'll bolt right up and I'll just net 3"-3.5" instead of 2.5". I've never heard this, but I'm new-ish to XJs. When I mentioned that I never heard about the suspensions being direct bolt ups (I heard that I can do a bastard pack with them) He gave me one of the "Oh absolutely, I've done it tons of time, I just never got around to installing this one in MY cherokee because....." lines.

I've been searching this forum on and off for the past few days (mostly the "Budget Build" sticky) to try and confirm what he said...but I haven't been able to.
I'm thinking that I can't conform because the guy doesn't know what he's talking about (or he doesn't mind screwing someone over to make a quick buck).

So, basically can I install WJ leaf springs and coils (and shocks) in a 2001 XJ without any modifications to either?
I'm like 90% sure that a WJ is coil springs front and back. You could probably use the front coils and get about 3.5" up front, but you'll need new leaf springs for the rear.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepDVL45
I have a guy (local to me) with a 2.5" lift for a 2001 WJ. His add lists it as a suspension for a Cherokee, so if course I called to check if he meant a WJ or XJ.

He told me its for a WJ, but INSISTS that it will fit my 01' XJ no problem.
It'll bolt right up and I'll just net 3"-3.5" instead of 2.5". I've never heard this, but I'm new-ish to XJs. When I mentioned that I never heard about the suspensions being direct bolt ups (I heard that I can do a bastard pack with them) He gave me one of the "Oh absolutely, I've done it tons of time, I just never got around to installing this one in MY cherokee because....." lines.

I've been searching this forum on and off for the past few days (mostly the "Budget Build" sticky) to try and confirm what he said...but I haven't been able to.
I'm thinking that I can't conform because the guy doesn't know what he's talking about (or he doesn't mind screwing someone over to make a quick buck).

So, basically can I install WJ leaf springs and coils (and shocks) in a 2001 XJ without any modifications to either?
The WJ has coils at all four corners, and I don't think the fronts are even the correct diameter. He's just trying to get some cash in his pocket.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
The WJ has coils at all four corners, and I don't think the fronts are even the correct diameter. He's just trying to get some cash in his pocket.
You're totally right, I didn't think of that. Not sure how he got these out of a WJ....

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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepDVL45
You're totally right, I didn't think of that. Not sure how he got these out of a WJ....

This guys clearly doesn't know what hes talking about. Don't buy from him for that simple fact alone.

If you're on a budget, get some cheap coils for the front, and build a bastard pack for the rear. Do it yourself so you know what its made out of. I wouldn't count on anything that guy sells you.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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Hey there brain trust. Current rolling 33"s on stock 3.55 gears. Surprisingly, drive OK... but not great obviously.

Doing gears soon, thinking 4.10s should get me back in the butter zone. Not going any bigger, sticking with 33" for good. So 4.10 sound about right?

And yes I know this would be a good time for lockers, etc. Planning on keeping the front open, (very)slowly building an LSD 8.8 that will eventually end up under the back of the XJ. But gears need to be done soon. She's my daily, and I know I'm straining the trans, engine, spiders, etc running it as is.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Hey there brain trust. Current rolling 33"s on stock 3.55 gears. Surprisingly, drive OK... but not great obviously. Doing gears soon, thinking 4.10s should get me back in the butter zone. Not going any bigger, sticking with 33" for good. So 4.10 sound about right? And yes I know this would be a good time for lockers, etc. Planning on keeping the front open, (very)slowly building an LSD 8.8 that will eventually end up under the back of the XJ. But gears need to be done soon. She's my daily, and I know I'm straining the trans, engine, spiders, etc running it as is.
people often say 4.56 for 33s and 4.10 for 31s. I guess it also depends on how you use it and such.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 08:57 PM
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4.56:1 for 33" tires behind an automatic transmission will get you back into the stock power range.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:28 PM
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Thanks guys, that's exactly what I'm looking for, somewhat stock acceleration characteristics, especially driving at Hwy speed. Looks like 4.56 it is.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Thanks guys, that's exactly what I'm looking for, somewhat stock acceleration characteristics, especially driving at Hwy speed. Looks like 4.56 it is.
there's also a deal I saw on here a few days ago. 4.56 front and rear with install kits for just $550
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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Nice! I'll do some digging!
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Nice! I'll do some digging!
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f10/fr...rchase-226126/
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:31 PM
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Thanks Hen!
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Thanks Hen!
no problem, Im debating going 4.56 but I still have my 31s so it'll be quick with no high end.
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