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Old 10-22-2015, 08:16 PM
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I have a real quick question, I hope this is the right thread. ive been looking into new tires for the jeep and came across kenda klever tires. the only thing I really know about them is that they used to make bicycle tires. anybody have any good or bad reviews about these tires? the reason they caught my eye was they seemed to be a fairly in-expensive mud tire. thanks!
I love them. I have a set of 255-75-17 on my rig. I've put 8,000 miles on them so far with no noticeable wear. They handle great on road and even better offroad. I will admit they are slightly loud on the road compared to AT tires, but as for as bang for the buck they can't be beat
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Originally Posted by SG Mason
They call them breaker bars for a reason. Only thing I can think of is to try get a reciprocating saw up in there and cut the back piece of the bolt off to let the track bar drop down.

The only sure way to know if a bolt is tight enough is a torque wrench and torque specs
I was hoping there might be another way but I figured that would be what I end up doing. Hopefully I can manage to not chew up the bushing. I'll have to check the torque specs and get a new nut and bolt from Home Depot in the morning. Thanks for the tip
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I was hoping there might be another way but I figured that would be what I end up doing. Hopefully I can manage to not chew up the bushing. I'll have to check the torque specs and get a new nut and bolt from Home Depot in the morning. Thanks for the tip
The lower track bar mount is 74 ft/lbs
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Originally Posted by chipmaker
I love them. I have a set of 255-75-17 on my rig. I've put 8,000 miles on them so far with no noticeable wear. They handle great on road and even better offroad. I will admit they are slightly loud on the road compared to AT tires, but as for as bang for the buck they can't be beat
awesome thank you I will probably be buying them here in the near future.
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So we bought our son a high mileage 99XJ 170,000, has good heads (no coil pack) runs really well and strong. My mechanic, says it's real solid aside from some surface rust and advised it will eventually need: -Tires -Shocks -Front ball joints (slight moment with a pry bar) -Tranny cooling lines He has saved up some money and I've swayed him to Rusty's 3" full leaf lift and tire package. (such a great deal, wish they offered more for JKs for me.) Our shop quoted $800 for the install, but said that's all pending the belly pan and if the bolts are stuck or rusted in. Could we prepare his XJ prior by hosing all the bolts with Break Free for a few weeks prior, and would that make a difference? Or is it just not worth it with modding it in that capacity? Thanks guys, great forum!
I would agree with the do it yourself statement. I am a college student and lifted two xj's in a parking lot at school in a weekend with just simple hand tools and a reciprocating saw. 3" is a good height. Not sure what that kit comes wth but I would suggest new lower control arms and a new adjustable track bar. I've gone both ways and it's worth the money. Also, wait to decide if you need to drop the cross member until you can drive it with the lift and feel for vibes. When we did my buddy's 3" we didn't end up with any vibrations so we never even had to touch the bolts on the crossmember. If you never remove the bolts, you can't break them.

Edit: Also wanted to say nice Jeep! My roommate has that same color. And 170,000 isn't that bad for the 4.0. My xj made it 274k on its first motor. Newer engine now has about 195k on it and still makes 60 lbs of oil pressure on startup and 26 lbs hot at an idle. Just keep changing the oil and it will keep running.

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What are the gains going from 6.5" to 4.5" of lift?

I'm thinking of installing some notch customs flares and lowering my jeep down a bit, since they seem to let you run 35's with a 4.5" lift. Even though I wanted to have a good bit of uptravel for going a bit faster on old logging roads, making this big lift drive on the freeway alright is difficult, and coming up soon I'm going to have to drive it ~1,000 miles when I move.

Should I do it or just keep building at my current height?
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Has anyone been running 33's with the 4.5 inch lift by rough country? I have 31's on right now and did't know what kind of rubbing might
occur if I size up. Any help?
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88 stock suspension that is in pretty beat up shape. I have frowning leafs and the shocks are toast and the whole rear bounces super bad over any bumps. Eventually I want either a 2 or 3 inch lift but don't have the budget right now. The shocks need to be replaced now for safety reasons with daily driving. I still have the rear sway bar so I can use them for bpe's when I lift it. The question is can I use longer shocks for time being until I get a lift and still be ok as a daily driver at stock height or is it better to get stock height shocks. I am just looking at the future and trying to avoid buying another pair of shocks when I lift it if i don't have to.
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No.
They"ll be long. You'll be using them as bumpstops and that will ruin them.
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Originally Posted by ljobbins
88 stock suspension that is in pretty beat up shape. I have frowning leafs and the shocks are toast and the whole rear bounces super bad over any bumps. Eventually I want either a 2 or 3 inch lift but don't have the budget right now. The shocks need to be replaced now for safety reasons with daily driving. I still have the rear sway bar so I can use them for bpe's when I lift it. The question is can I use longer shocks for time being until I get a lift and still be ok as a daily driver at stock height or is it better to get stock height shocks. I am just looking at the future and trying to avoid buying another pair of shocks when I lift it if i don't have to.
A two inch lift would cost you less than a set of shocks. Google "bastard pack lift XJ" (sounds too bad for just a lift shackle) for the rear, then get a set of coil spacers from Amazon for $35. Better you do that now than waste your money on shocks you'll be throwing out anyways. I think with suspension that bad your shocks are only part of the problem.
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2WD 2001. I am thinking of 15" wheels that are 10.5 or 9.0. My lift is about 1.5" maybe a little more. From level floor to rear fender well is 33 1/4" front is 32 1/8". Do you think I can run 31" or 30" tires and which of those wheel sizes will work best with the tires? Any suggestions on wheels (chrome, black, brand etc. is appreciated also tires. I am on road only but a tire that looks a little aggressive with minimal noise would be great. Thanks in advance. Sandyman

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2WD 2001. I am thinking of 15" wheels that are 10.5 or 9.0. My lift is about 1.5" maybe a little more. From level floor to rear fender well is 33 1/4" front is 32 1/8". Do you think I can run 31" or 30" tires and which of those wheel sizes will work best with the tires? Any suggestions on wheels (chrome, black, brand etc. is appreciated also tires. I am on road only but a tire that looks a little aggressive with minimal noise would be great. Thanks in advance. Sandyman
31x10.50's will fit on 1.5"+ A 15x7 wheel with ~4.00" back spacing would be good for what you want. Check out Wrangler Duratrack's for tires. Great combo of on/off road manners and the most aggressive A/T tire I know of. What color/color scheme are you shooting for. Personally, cause you asked, chrome isn't for XJ's. Ever. Period. Black Craiger Soft 8's for a wheel option, unless you've got a bigger budget in which case there's a lot more options. *More offset will cause the tires to protrude outside the fender walls. Beware of local laws regarding tire protrusion. Most places say NO tire past the fender. Plenty of F150's around here (for some reason it's always a ford?...) run ~2" outside the fender and I never see them getting hassled. Still, some places can be very stringent about it.

Edit- btw, that's a really clean jeep man! She'll look good (better) with some beefy tarz on her!
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Thanks guys. If I did the bastard pack could I use my bad leaf for the top leaf or should I find one in better shape? And how would I know if one is in good condition because without weight they all seem to look good.
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Thanks guys. If I did the bastard pack could I use my bad leaf for the top leaf or should I find one in better shape? And how would I know if one is in good condition because without weight they all seem to look good.
Reuse your main leaf (with the eyes on it) and stack donor leaf springs under it. Even worn out, they still give lift because they're SUA springs instead of SOA like an XJ.

They have more arch because they're designed to mount Spring Under Axle, where Cherokees have the Spring Over Axle.
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
31x10.50's will fit on 1.5"+ A 15x7 wheel with ~4.00" back spacing would be good for what you want. Check out Wrangler Duratrack's for tires. Great combo of on/off road manners and the most aggressive A/T tire I know of. What color/color scheme are you shooting for. Personally, cause you asked, chrome isn't for XJ's. Ever. Period. Black Craiger Soft 8's for a wheel option, unless you've got a bigger budget in which case there's a lot more options. *More offset will cause the tires to protrude outside the fender walls. Beware of local laws regarding tire protrusion. Most places say NO tire past the fender. Plenty of F150's around here (for some reason it's always a ford?...) run ~2" outside the fender and I never see them getting hassled. Still, some places can be very stringent about it.

Edit- btw, that's a really clean jeep man! She'll look good (better) with some beefy tarz on her!
Thank you for your reply and ideas. I agree on the Black wheels. I have been saving for this project and have been wanting to do something like this for years. Therefore, I have the budget to get more expensive wheels. The soft 8's are so common around here. I like them though. I have been looking at some Fuel wheels. Some I have looked at have a 3.75 BS. Think that would be a problem? We have no issues with the police about wheels sticking out. I don't mind if they stick out a little. Any wheel ideas you have would be appreciated. My main goal with this 165K mile jeep since it is a 2wd is to have a great running and smooth riding weekender. Do you think the Durartacks will be quiet enough to meet my goal? The looks are prefect. I have really done a lot on the suspension and running gear. Doing it myself has been a challenge and lots of fun since this is my first attempt to do this. The seats and paint are not something I could do. All suggestions or ideas will be appreciated. Sandyman














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