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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Marks2000XJ
Out of sheer boredom I decided to go ahead and install my Spartan locker in the new carrier and install the new ring gear.

Everything went together fine except the little retainer pin you drive in to hold the center pin in. It went in all the way except right to the end then just quit. Mushroomed the end a little bit but filed around the edges to remove any burs.

Will it be okay like this? The pin made it all the way through the center pin and into the other side so it is not going anywhere. Just want to make sure I can leave it like this or do I need to get a Dremel tool to clean it up some. Hard to get in that little space.

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Sounds like it didn't line up perfectly on the other side. I'd drive it back out and clean up the head a little where it mushroomed out.

You don't want the roll pin to back out and hit the ring gear.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
Sounds like it didn't line up perfectly on the other side. I'd drive it back out and clean up the head a little where it mushroomed out.

You don't want the roll pin to back out and hit the ring gear.
I was afraid someone would say that...

It is weird how it was going in fine then got right to the last 1/8" and decided to quit.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marks2000XJ
I was afraid someone would say that...

It is weird how it was going in fine then got right to the last 1/8" and decided to quit.
Just make sure the roll pin didnt try to spin and is off center of where it needs to be. Dont want the roll pin to chew up the gears or lock the axle up.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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I'd pull that pin out and tap the carrier for the bolt style cross shaft retainer.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
I'd pull that pin out and tap the carrier for the bolt style cross shaft retainer.
I thought about that. I was not sure if I could do that though. That roll pin seems like a dumb way to secure the center pin. The Chrysler has a retaining bolt so why didn't they do that on the D30? I dunno...

At this point I may have to drill it out because I went back out in the garage and tried to tap it back out and it won't budge. I did manage to use the flat end of a punch and drive it the rest of the way in. I still don't like it though.

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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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The hole is roughly a 1/4". I have a 1/4-20 tap. What is the best way to do this without damaging the carrier or messing up the hole?
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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If it is smaller than a 1/4" hole you could.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
If it is smaller than a 1/4" hole you could.
It measures 7/32" which is under a 1/4 and I think about the size hole you need for a 1/4 tap.

That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed.

I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Marks2000XJ
It measures 7/32" which is under a 1/4 and I think about the size hole you need for a 1/4 tap.

That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed.

I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.


It will. Happened at Harlan to a guy in our group. Ate up his pinion.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marks2000XJ
It measures 7/32" which is under a 1/4 and I think about the size hole you need for a 1/4 tap. That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed. I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
a #7 bit is what you need for a 1/4-20 tap. I'm not sure what that works out to, I can check the uglys book and let you know. If go get a quality tap before I started tapping my carrier, cheap taps break very easily and taps are a mother ****er to get out.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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A #7 bit is just slightly bigger than a 13/64" bit. I took a quick look at my SAE tap drill chart and didn't see anything that used a 1/4" hole. I can't seem to find my metric one to see if there was a metric tap that would be a close fit
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
It will. Happened at Harlan to a guy in our group. Ate up his pinion.
Looks like I will be taking the pin out then and tapping a hole.

Originally Posted by bhennessee1
a #7 bit is what you need for a 1/4-20 tap. I'm not sure what that works out to, I can check the uglys book and let you know. If go get a quality tap before I started tapping my carrier, cheap taps break very easily and taps are a mother ****er to get out.
You must be an electrician too? Love those Ugly books. Chock full of great info.

Originally Posted by SG Mason
A #7 bit is just slightly bigger than a 13/64" bit. I took a quick look at my SAE tap drill chart and didn't see anything that used a 1/4" hole. I can't seem to find my metric one to see if there was a metric tap that would be a close fit
1/4-20 tap = 13/64 hole
1/4-28 tap = 7/32 hole
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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Next question, has anyone done this to their carrier and what is the best way to do this? Do I need to disassemble everything back down to a bare carrier then tap?

I already thread locked and torqued down the ring gear bolts. Don't want to have to take that off. I think that locker would be a mother getting back out too since those springs keep that thing in there tight.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Marks2000XJ
Next question, has anyone done this to their carrier and what is the best way to do this? Do I need to disassemble everything back down to a bare carrier then tap? I already thread locked and torqued down the ring gear bolts. Don't want to have to take that off. I think that locker would be a mother getting back out too since those springs keep that thing in there tight.
id get some tap and trap to keep the shavings from going everywhere, and just make sure you don't get shavings places you don't want them. Maybe put some rags between the locker and the side of the carrier that your tapping just to make sure you don't get anything down in there.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 07:22 AM
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Hey guys,

I'm just getting into upgrading my cherokee and looking at buying a 4.5'' RE lift and putting 33's on it. I've never wheeled, but this is my first truck and want to get into it. I'm probably not going to be an every weekender (IDK who is), but I'm in college and would like to go maybe like once a month. Otherwise this will be my dd. Would you recommend the 3'' lift with 31's or a 4.5'' inch with 33's? I'm currently looking at the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs 33X12.50X15's. I saw a couple people were able to pick them up for around 155 bucks a tire. If anyone still has the receipt can they post a picture? I'd love to see if a place will price match it for me. The cheapest I've been able to find online was about 180 a tire after mail rebates etc.
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