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From: Mercer County, NJ
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO
Thanks for the clarification. I remembered the bar pin eliminator after giving it some thought. I'll give that a go with a floor jack tomorrow (fully compressed vs. fully extended). It's the best I can do for now. I did a Dana 35 to Chrysler 8.25 axle swap and found out that the pinion bearing was shot in my JY Chrysler (post swap surprise). Don't want to drive the thing until I get that situation squared up. Also found out that 6" of lift is too much for the stock driveshaft and will have to do a hack n tap or SYE conversion too. It's the domino effect.

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From: San Jose
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Haven't heard of anyone breaking a hack n tap, but then again I haven't searched. If you're going to do a hack n tap get the IRO yoke style. You can use a plain front driveshaft with it and it bolts right up. Where as with a Rubicon express hack n tap which is a flange style you need to have the front driveshaft rebuilt so it can adapt to the flange.
Biggest tire it will get will probably be a 33X12.5. Currently running 32X11.5
That's the plan.
Last edited by danimal; Mar 1, 2014 at 09:40 PM.
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 593
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From: Bel Air, MD
Year: 1994 and 1996
Model: Cherokee
Quick question about rims and tires.
Will have a 2 1/2 lift and that is as high as I want but would like to replace rims and tires.
What back spacing would be adequate and what tires would be best for a DD.
I am most concerned with rain and snow but also with being able to do some light trails. I have zero interest in mudding.
Thanks in advance for tire recommendations.
Will have a 2 1/2 lift and that is as high as I want but would like to replace rims and tires.
What back spacing would be adequate and what tires would be best for a DD.
I am most concerned with rain and snow but also with being able to do some light trails. I have zero interest in mudding.
Thanks in advance for tire recommendations.
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From: St. Albert
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Quick question about rims and tires.
Will have a 2 1/2 lift and that is as high as I want but would like to replace rims and tires.
What back spacing would be adequate and what tires would be best for a DD.
I am most concerned with rain and snow but also with being able to do some light trails. I have zero interest in mudding.
Thanks in advance for tire recommendations.
Will have a 2 1/2 lift and that is as high as I want but would like to replace rims and tires.
What back spacing would be adequate and what tires would be best for a DD.
I am most concerned with rain and snow but also with being able to do some light trails. I have zero interest in mudding.
Thanks in advance for tire recommendations.
CF Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,692
Likes: 6
From: Mercer County, NJ
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO
Quick question about rims and tires.
Will have a 2 1/2 lift and that is as high as I want but would like to replace rims and tires.
What back spacing would be adequate and what tires would be best for a DD.
I am most concerned with rain and snow but also with being able to do some light trails. I have zero interest in mudding.
Thanks in advance for tire recommendations.
Will have a 2 1/2 lift and that is as high as I want but would like to replace rims and tires.
What back spacing would be adequate and what tires would be best for a DD.
I am most concerned with rain and snow but also with being able to do some light trails. I have zero interest in mudding.
Thanks in advance for tire recommendations.
Going by the measurements I got, I need what the manufacturer sells as a 2" lift shock even though it's got 5" of lift (maybe a little more).
Compressed length 13.42" so when that wheel is stuffed there's still 1.08" of shaft showing and it's a long way from bottomed out.
Extended length is 21". Even though I only need 18.5" when fully drooped, the extra here won't hurt me.
No more guessing or going by the manufacturers recommendations for me. This is the only way I'll buy shocks from here on out.
Thanks for the help on this one.
Last edited by danimal; Mar 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Thanks. Did this today with a floor jack and shocks turned loose. Jacked one wheel until the other just came off the floor and measured. I'm convinced this is the only way to pick the right shocks. The measurements revealed that I needed a shock that was shorter than 14.5" when fully compressed and 18.5" (or longer) when fully extended. Shock manufacturers/dealers try to sell shocks saying "good for 2" - 6" lift". That's insane. This experience has taught me that there's no way in heck that the same shock that works at 2" will work at 6" and vice versa or at least not optimally.
Going by the measurements I got, I need what the manufacturer sells as a 2" lift shock even though it's got 5" of lift (maybe a little more).
Compressed length 13.42" so when that wheel is stuffed there's still 1.08" of shaft showing and it's a long way from bottomed out.
Extended length is 21". Even though I only need 18.5" when fully drooped, the extra here won't hurt me.
No more guessing or going by the manufacturers recommendations for me. This is the only way I'll buy shocks from here on out.
Thanks for the help on this one.
Going by the measurements I got, I need what the manufacturer sells as a 2" lift shock even though it's got 5" of lift (maybe a little more).
Compressed length 13.42" so when that wheel is stuffed there's still 1.08" of shaft showing and it's a long way from bottomed out.
Extended length is 21". Even though I only need 18.5" when fully drooped, the extra here won't hurt me.
No more guessing or going by the manufacturers recommendations for me. This is the only way I'll buy shocks from here on out.
Thanks for the help on this one.
If you go by what RC says, it's got 5".
3" from the AAL and 2" from the extended shackles.
Beach Bum
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,123
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From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
[QUOTE=danimal;2791706
If you go by what RC says, it's got 5".
3" from the AAL and 2" from the extended shackles.[/QUOTE]
It really does not work like that.
Also, if the leaf packs had a couple inches of sag in them before the add-a-leafs, then subtract that from the lift height.
If the 2" shackle is angled as it should be, than it's effective 'liift' is also reduced.
If you go by what RC says, it's got 5".
3" from the AAL and 2" from the extended shackles.[/QUOTE]
It really does not work like that.
Also, if the leaf packs had a couple inches of sag in them before the add-a-leafs, then subtract that from the lift height.
If the 2" shackle is angled as it should be, than it's effective 'liift' is also reduced.
Again. Don't really care what the lift is. My goal was to fit 32 (maybe 33's someday) without rubbing even at full flex and with minimum fender trimming.
One thing's for sure whatever the lift is the old RC shocks were bottoming out on compression. The new ones won't and that's just gotta help things out.
I've done two of these things now. Stepson has the white one in avatar which is a 92 RC 3" lift and 31X10.5. I didn't have to do much with that one because it was only a 3". This one has been a different story and learning experience. We did it budget style buying lift components as birthday and xmas presents and piecing it together. 3" here, 2" there, track bar kits, axle swap, hack n tap, adjustable lower control arms etc. etc.
One of these days I'm doing to do one for myself because I'm so impressed with what these little trucks can do. I'll go right for the 4.5" kit with everything included. Buy once and cry once. I'm slow...........but I do learn eventually.
One thing's for sure whatever the lift is the old RC shocks were bottoming out on compression. The new ones won't and that's just gotta help things out.
I've done two of these things now. Stepson has the white one in avatar which is a 92 RC 3" lift and 31X10.5. I didn't have to do much with that one because it was only a 3". This one has been a different story and learning experience. We did it budget style buying lift components as birthday and xmas presents and piecing it together. 3" here, 2" there, track bar kits, axle swap, hack n tap, adjustable lower control arms etc. etc.
One of these days I'm doing to do one for myself because I'm so impressed with what these little trucks can do. I'll go right for the 4.5" kit with everything included. Buy once and cry once. I'm slow...........but I do learn eventually.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Lift height does matter, though. It determines which parts do need to be upgraded and determines proper suspension angles. As for tire rub, read up on bumpstopping. It's the proper way to limit uptravel and prevent unwanted contact.
While I appreciate your attempts to educate me, I think we're just mincing words now.
I don't care how much lift it has as long as it works the way I want it to.
Thanks
I don't care how much lift it has as long as it works the way I want it to.
Thanks




