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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jmg
Relay cost is what, less then $1? Yes, you're probably safe at 4 lights, probably safe with the wire, but you're getting close to its rated limit. Keep in mind surge voltage, which is far greater than operating voltage, and you could easily over power the relays or the wires. it'll probably never rear its head, but wouldn't you rather over-engineer than build something so close to tolerances?
I feel comfortable with a 7 amp safety factor on top of the safety factor calculated into that. The fuse would blow before anything else anyway.
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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Gentlemen, led lights watt rating is not actual watt rating. If you want to know the actual draw you need to hook them up to a multi meter. Led lights work like house led lights. The watt ratting is an equivalent rating not the actual watt draw. I have 2 new 2x3 led cubes that are 50 watt "rated" and measured an actual draw of 1.63 amps per light. That's about 20 actually watts per light. Another good example, my 38 inch light bar has some stupid high watt rating and it's actual draw came out to just under 9 amps. The thing came with a 30 amp relay and fuse. Been running a 15 amp fuse for 6 months without it ever popping

As for relays, if you max rating is 30 amp, you stick a fuse on the power in line at a max of 30 amps. If you do have surge draw above that it will pop your fuse. I like to run a fuse 50 percent above measured draw but never exceed the relay rating on the fuse side.

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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jmg
yup, you need relay, switch, wiring, and the lights.




one suggestion-- I highly recommend going w/ LEDS, if you can afford.
I went from 250watt kc's to a smallish set of LEDS, and was blown away by how much better they are-- brighter, no fading on the sides, more durable, and use less wattage for the same amount of power -- superior in every way. Of course... there's the extra $$.
I agree I went from Hid offroad lights on my YJ that were very bright to some little led cubes that put out the same amount of light but for 1/2 the power draw. The. Upgraded to a 50" bar in addition. With all my lights on in the middle of the desert at night it looks like noon infront of my jeep. I'll be upgrading my XJ with a 20" bar for the center hoop on the bumper and a 50" for the top
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 10:45 PM
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Btw... please stop looking at house wiring rating for the amperage... here is an automotive 12v chart. Amps vs wire length at 12 volts, number in the chart is required wire gauge for the load:
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/12-vo...gauge-amps.htm
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by XJlimitedx99
I hear people say this often but I don't understand the logic behind it. I have five 55w lights on one switch and relay.

Most people don't run every light they have all at once, no reason to. I bring them in pairs as needed for what I'm doing at the time front to back and have easy access to the switches even when its dark. Just barely have to remove a few fingers from my steering wheel to turn on/off each set.


I use over size wiring on all my lights because of the way I run the wires some are long runs for the rack mounted ones. The size also covers if I decide later to use a heaver draw light to replace one.


I still can add 2 more switches per panel if needed to the gauge pod.
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
Most people don't run every light they have all at once, no reason to. I bring them in pairs as needed for what I'm doing at the time front to back and have easy access to the switches even when its dark. Just barely have to remove a few fingers from my steering wheel to turn on/off each set.


I use over size wiring on all my lights because of the way I run the wires some are long runs for the rack mounted ones. The size also covers if I decide later to use a heaver draw light to replace one.


I still can add 2 more switches per panel if needed to the gauge pod.
Lol I always love seeing those switch pods
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by InitialForce
Btw... please stop looking at house wiring rating for the amperage... here is an automotive 12v chart. Amps vs wire length at 12 volts, number in the chart is required wire gauge for the load:
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/12-vo...gauge-amps.htm
Thanks for the chart. To be honest, a lot of people use regular THHN wiring to run stuff on their cars. But to be fair, DC voltage does run different than AC.
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 02:08 PM
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it looks like its cheaper to by the lights and harness seperately than to buy the kit. 2Lights @ 49.83 and 1harness @ 21.43 is 121.09. The kit is 129.99. Am I missing something here?
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