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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
i guarantee an aftermarket efi system would gives gains. a lot. especially if timing tables can be incorporated into the equation. results only growing exponentially by mod.
if you came through with that guarantee, particularly the part in red, you would make a lot of people happy.

Originally Posted by s346k
??? all I'm saying bout the jeep is the factory engine management system is not optimal and would easily be surpassed by an aftermarket setup offering more adjustment.

I've dealt with everything from na 2.3 ford to turbo 2.3 ford to sbc bbc BBQ you name it. I'm only arguing that the factory jeep eng man setup is junk and could be light years better. simmer down son
see below. and as far as simmering down, i ain't even got the stove turned on!! lol i think you just assume too much about the ol' 4.0. peace man, just a friendly debate.

Originally Posted by CobraMarty
You are still stuck with the poor flowing head, minimal cam and poor flowing intake manifold. It falls on its face at about 4800rpm.
Stock it has perfect AFRs and you can advance the timing 6* with a CPS mod. All said maybe 5hp with timing.
Bolt-ons CAI, TB, exhaust, and maybe 15hp.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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all you need to do is strap a few leaf blowers to the hood and plumb into the intake. Done. Just don't use the electric ones, you will go broke buying the 60 miles of extension cords.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Willys55
all you need to do is strap a few leaf blowers to the hood and plumb into the intake. Done. Just don't use the electric ones, you will go broke buying the 60 miles of extension cords.

Skip ahead to 8:26 for leaf blower dyno results
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Look up " roadkill episode 16" on YouTube. 5 leaf blowers in a Chevy Monza. It's a good watch.

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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
Look up " roadkill episode 16" on YouTube. 5 leaf blowers in a Chevy Monza. It's a good watch.
Thank you for sharing this haha
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
youre also comparing a 1.? liter motor to a 4L motor. not a great comparison. even if you gained the same percentage it wouldn't look like much bc they make what 95 hp?
We're talking supercharged and turbocharged. 200 plus HP. All the standalone gave us was the ability to reduce the fuel of our big injectors so it would idle and perform at no boost, and have enough fuel for boost.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
If you can do better, do it and prove you know what you're talking about. Right now you're sounding a bit pompous, like you're smarter than the engineers that designed a system that works very well for all types of situations. Put up or shut up.
believe me. if I had the time I would certainly jump off head first into this debate with a standalone, chassis dyno, and repeated pulls. unfortunately my jeep is a dd and I work way too much for such ventures. I love engines and challenges. one reason I like the 4.0 so much. I think it's underrated and overlooked performance wise bc the group if ppl dealing with them (for the most part) dgaf bout afr or knock. they mod it and the engine says f u and now they have 12 mpg and little to no power gain.

it's cool guys. maybe if i get off this corvette kick I'll buy another xj to mod.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by salad

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGWgvJN1_8&t=8m26s

Skip ahead to 8:26 for leaf blower dyno results
Thanks for the laugh.. that was awesome.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 02:14 AM
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I would leave the factory efi on its known and well proven.If your looking for more power cam swap maybe stroker,It just depends on your budget and how you will use the jeep what will really be needed.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
If you can do better, do it and prove you know what you're talking about. Right now you're sounding a bit pompous, like you're smarter than the engineers that designed a system that works very well for all types of situations. Put up or shut up.
Originally Posted by s346k
believe me. if I had the time I would certainly jump off head first into this debate with a standalone, chassis dyno, and repeated pulls. unfortunately my jeep is a dd and I work way too much for such ventures. I love engines and challenges. one reason I like the 4.0 so much. I think it's underrated and overlooked performance wise bc the group if ppl dealing with them (for the most part) dgaf bout afr or knock. they mod it and the engine says f u and now they have 12 mpg and little to no power gain.

it's cool guys. maybe if i get off this corvette kick I'll buy another xj to mod.


This is exactly the kind of response I expected to see from you.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee


This is exactly the kind of response I expected to see from you.
Underrated and overlooked? The opposite is true for this factory engine. They did a great job. So much so, that other than adding forced induction or increasing displacement, there's not much room for improvement.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee


This is exactly the kind of response I expected to see from you.
Pompous with a pinch of douche bag, right? The mention of Corvettes confirms it.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Hey, now, I like corvettes! lol
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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I can't stand corvette..
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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lol yeah I'm certainly a pompous *** and can't wait to get a corvette. so I can wear a vette jacket everywhere knowing I'm better than you.
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