Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

44/9 swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-24-2015, 09:38 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fannitti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default 44/9 swap

what years are best to look for in a f150 for the 44/9 swap. local junk yard has a 76 and a 78 f150. what one is better?
Old 12-24-2015, 09:43 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
RoyalXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West Deptford, NJ
Posts: 1,839
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

78-79 is what you want.
Old 12-24-2015, 10:32 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
Atmos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: City of Trees, CA
Posts: 7,387
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by RoyalXJ
78-79 is what you want.
the only 2 years with cast wedges? are the ones you want to avoid

you want pre-1978. you can also look at f100 and bronco. if you are near the northern CA area my buddy has a fully built D44 for sale with 5.13 gearing
Old 12-24-2015, 11:38 AM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
RoyalXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West Deptford, NJ
Posts: 1,839
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I meant 78-79 f250 sorry. 8 lug, big brakes and 1/2" axle tubes. Hp44 and ff60
Old 12-25-2015, 12:16 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
andrewmp6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisville,KY
Posts: 8,014
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Honestly go for 1 ton axles,The 44/9 inch are good tell like 37s and finding a 79 back dana 44 is hard and pricey.If you go 1 tons you can run a ford dana 60 85-96 the rear you can run a sterling from the same ford or a gm 14 bolt full float.Or you can use the 99-04 super duty axles front and rear.
Old 12-25-2015, 11:22 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fannitti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default

i daily drive the thing and i don't want super wide
Old 12-25-2015, 02:03 PM
  #7  
CF Veteran
 
Atmos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: City of Trees, CA
Posts: 7,387
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by fannitti
i daily drive the thing and i don't want super wide
You can run a proper back space wheel and narrow it up pretty well. I ran H2 wheels on my 1 tons and it was pretty narrow, and very manageable on road. And even if you didn't run like 5.5" back space think about it, those axles were under a truck that fit perfectly fine in between the lines on the road and in parking lots

I feel it though. Having light 1/2 ton axles would be even better. But you will probably spend more money building them than you would on the whole 1 ton swap
Old 12-25-2015, 08:48 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fannitti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default

ok so where can i find a lift of what years and what models have what so i can make a decision?
Old 12-25-2015, 09:02 PM
  #9  
CF Veteran
 
Atmos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: City of Trees, CA
Posts: 7,387
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Pirate4x4 Dana 60 bible. 76-77 Dana 44 from f100, f150, bronco. RoyalXJ mentioned 3/4 ton years. Wide array of 14 bolt. I dunno google it man
Old 12-25-2015, 09:19 PM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
andrewmp6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisville,KY
Posts: 8,014
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

You see axles from a truck are about the same width 1/2 ton to 1 ton,The early bronco axles are shorter but hard to find and the early years used a dana 30 front.You want jeep width axles you can use 80-91 wagoneer dana 44 front and a isuzu rodeo rear dana 44.Or if you got the money and time you can use jk rubicon 44s front and rear.
Old 12-28-2015, 02:58 AM
  #11  
Newbie
 
IsomRonA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Astoria, Or.
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I believe pre 77 D44 were all closed knuckle/drum setups (my f250 was anyway). Makes for a real pain to find replacement axles or convert to disc.
Old 12-28-2015, 05:22 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fannitti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default

I found a guy on Facebook near me that has a EB d44 with drums but has radius arms. I herd these where good but hasn't done a lot of reading on them.
Originally Posted by IsomRonA
I believe pre 77 D44 were all closed knuckle/drum setups (my f250 was anyway). Makes for a real pain to find replacement axles or convert to disc.
Old 12-28-2015, 05:47 AM
  #13  
CF Veteran
 
andrewmp6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisville,KY
Posts: 8,014
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

The early broncos was all low pinion and a lot more of them had a dana 30 then a dana 44.Being its a drum axle its a 1971-1975 but the early bronco used a 260 u joint the same size your stock dana 30 has in it.You will have to buy a disc swap kit and aftermarket axles if you want a good size u joint for it.For all that money you could have 1 ton axles maybe a little cheaper depending what axles you use.And like said depending wheel back spacing you can have a jeep on full widths and not have the wheels sticking way out like some do.
Old 12-28-2015, 09:58 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
fannitti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default

It has disc and bigger ujoints already 76/77 I think it is and that's what this guy has with radius arms. Worth it?
Originally Posted by andrewmp6
The early broncos was all low pinion and a lot more of them had a dana 30 then a dana 44.Being its a drum axle its a 1971-1975 but the early bronco used a 260 u joint the same size your stock dana 30 has in it.You will have to buy a disc swap kit and aftermarket axles if you want a good size u joint for it.For all that money you could have 1 ton axles maybe a little cheaper depending what axles you use.And like said depending wheel back spacing you can have a jeep on full widths and not have the wheels sticking way out like some do.
Old 12-28-2015, 09:37 PM
  #15  
CF Veteran
 
andrewmp6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisville,KY
Posts: 8,014
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Do you know what gear it is and is it open diff or a locker and how much does he want for it?


Quick Reply: 44/9 swap



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:36 PM.