IF, and that's a big IF, you wanted to spend the money there are companies that can install a 2way alarm system complete with shocking door handles

I put 3M security glass on the rear passenger door windows (the small ones) as well as the rear side windows, and the rear window on the lift gate. Google 3M security glass, the stuff is legit.

I have a viper 2 way

Some guy recently got charged with murder for shooting a guy driving away with his car lets not be hasty ppl

I have my CCW and the only way I would shoot someone trying to take my XJ was if they pulled a weapon on me or they tried to take it with my child in the car.

If we shoot and kill a thief here in Texas we're hailed as a hero.

Alarms suck. No one pays attention to them. Your only hope is that YOU hear it.

If possible put a flood light up that shines right on your jeep. Make sure it comes on at night, light it up as bright as you can. Keep it locked. Hope for the best.


Towards the shooting a thief, in Indiana if you shoot someone in the back, while they're running, etc. It will almost without a doubt not be covered under self defense. So get them to turn around. Lol

It takes about 20 seconds with a coat hanger and a flat head screw driver to get into a vehicle without breaking glass.

So if security to not have the stuff IN/ON your ride stolen, is what your looking for, i would say there are 2 options:

1) dont attract theft, by leaving anything visable. If there is nothing to steal, then why break in?

2) Save the money on an alarm system and rig up a small led flashing light on each of the front door and one on the dash. Make them visible. (you can take these off of a 2 dollar toy from walmart) A thief will skip your ride, if they think there is an alarm. If the lights dont stop them, then an alarm wouldnt have stopped them anyway. when there are 50 other targets on your block, why pick the one that "could" have an alarm on it?

Remember many/most thefts actually come from people who know people we know. Your kids friends. Your neighbors. Co-workers. people from your club/organization. So dont advertise the "fake" alarm, or advertise the valuebales that are in your ride. A good example of this is your stereo, DONT crank it up when your driving around your neighborhood. Hearing it going down the road is one thing, seeing where it is parked and having a daily reminder that it "kicks" is another.


Now, if you are worried about your ride getting stolen, two suggestions:

1) an ignition cut off alarm. (the club and other items like this are a joke, it takes 2 seconds to saw through your steering wheel, no need to cut the high quality metal of the club when the steering wheel is week)

2) Take MANY pictures of ALL equipment in your ride. Itemize your gear and upgrades and make sure to have an insurance policy that shows the real value of your upgrades. It will hardly effect the insurance cost, and will protect your finiacial investment if it is stolen. (example, i just sold it, but i had a 1979 Chevy Caprise Classic, all original, with 38,000 miles on it, infact we pulled off the bubble wrap seat covers that where installed when it was purchased 34 years ago just before we sold it. Book value on it was very low..however we all know the street value was several thousand more, as it had NO rust, was babied as a collector since day one etc... We insured it for $5k more than book value and the policy cost us $42 more each year.)


Finally "sub boxes". I had several sub boxes and amps, as a youth in the 80's and early 90's. The best way to stop someone from pulling them out was to bolt them in from the bottom of the trunk and or the sides of the wheel wells. My last one was custom made to fit tightly between the wheel wells in the trunk area. i drilled small holes into the box and wheel wells and had bolts that stuck out of the sub box and fit into these holes, i reached up into the wheel well and simply used wing-nuts. As long as you keep your mouth shut about how they are secured, no one will ever know how easy it is to remove the box, yet the box is extremely secure if you tried to remove it with-out undoing the wing-nuts. basically you would have to slide a saws-all blade between the box and the wheel well, and cut the bots, or break the box apart. Face the subs towards the back seat, then they can't unscrew and pull the speakers out while in the box, if its an open faced sub box.

The best security is to not leave anything valuable in your jeep. Locks only keep honest people out. I leave my windows down and doors unlocked almost all the time.

First, really bad idea to leave any firearm unattended at any time.

Second,
Thieves are getting smarter all the time. They are quick to realize anything of yours they want is free because:

1. If you have any assets at all, you won't kill or even shoot them and risk losing everything you have worked for (remember, they won't work & depend on you).

2. You are more than welcome to call the local LE which will respond and might even arrest the suspect(s). Be aware of the fact that LE knows these individuals on a first name basis from the prior weekly run-ins. If the suspects are charged, convicted, sentenced they will get an average of 5 days in jail. No big deal it's not like they had to be at work anyway. As soon as they are released, they will be back to stealing your or someone elses stuff.

As far as theft, if it's worth stealing, it's worth a flatbed.

Those of you depending on the "CLUB" understand it takes 5 seconds to hacksaw through the steering wheel, you have just given the thief a weapon. They will beat you with your "CLUB" when you show up to defend your property. If they maim or kill you that is of little concern to them as they don't have to show up at work anyway....

Mini rant over.

Time to respond:

It's just fine to leave a firearm unattended if it's locked up and ammo is locked away, especially if it's protected by a 2 way alarm

I agree don't shoot the thief

What's the deal with the flatbed part? It's not like the alarm wouldn't go off if they put it on a flatbed....

And if they are repeat thiefs they will be felony charged and sentenced as such

my jeep is protected by 3 people. Me, Smith, and Wesson

The front door window trims pop right off by just lifting them. Then you can look in the gap with a flashlight and hook a coat hanger onto the unlock rod. Super easy. Also if someone really wants to steal your rig on a flatbed it's really easy to go under the jeep and grab the linkage to shift it into neutral.

while true, i highly doubt any car theif would be smart enough to accomplish this

This is true and if they were they wouldn't be going after XJ's they be going after high end cars.

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It's just fine to leave a firearm unattended if it's locked up and ammo is locked away, especially if it's protected by a 2 way alarm
Might as well just leave it at home, or not bother to purchase at it at all.



And if they are repeat thiefs they will be felony charged and sentenced as such
Charged and convicted are two entirely different things. They will usually plea bargin to trespassing or disorderly, with the sentence being that of time served.

Alarms are intended to make you feel safer i.e. your ride is going down the road on a flatbed with the alarm sounding, yet nobody (except you) cares. Heard a story about one dude that was really slick, he would leave bits and pieces of the alarm where the vehicle had been parked.
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