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Old 12-26-2017, 08:11 AM
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Jeep sat all day in the cold weather. I went to move it at night, so it was a cold start.

I put it in drive expecting the idle to lurch forward but it didn't move. I gave it a light tap of the gas pedal and I heard a knock and it still didn't move. So I shifted to neutral, then to park and back to Drive and then it starts to move forward but is making a grinding noise like something metallic is circling and catching on something. This noise lasts for 5 seconds, goes away, and the transmission is back to normal.

I changed the fluid 25,000 miles ago (3 years ago), 12 quarts over 500 miles. The transmission always is great so I am not sure what it could be. I am thinking cold weather, cold fluid messing with pressure? I am no expert here, so any suggestions are appreciated.

I haven't tried it yet this morning, so I don't know if it will repeat.
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How cold was it outside and how long did it run before you put it in drive?

also what does "12 quarts over 500 miles" mean?
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How cold was it outside and how long did it run before you put it in drive?

also what does "12 quarts over 500 miles" mean?
It was a windy 28 degrees. I let it run for about 20 seconds before I tried to move it.

12 quarts over 500 miles is my short way of saying I did 3 fluid changes in the span of about 500 miles of driving, since the system carries 12 quarts and every drain and fill only does 4 quarts at a time.
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Just drove it around and it is normal. No issue on startup. Oh well, chalk this up to another XJ quirk.
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Just drove it around and it is normal. No issue on startup. Oh well, chalk this up to another XJ quirk.
where's the official chalk board for that... I've got a few I could put up there from my XJ too. lol.
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where's the official chalk board for that... I've got a few I could put up there from my XJ too. lol.
That would be a long list.
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Originally Posted by OldTires
Just drove it around and it is normal. No issue on startup. Oh well, chalk this up to another XJ quirk.
I would suspect the torque converter trying to fill back up with thick fluid. I have not had this happen on these yet but I have had it happen on other makes. And it can sound god awful...
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Any moisture?

Rain or snow?

I've had my brake pads/shoes freeze to the rotor/drum and give a weird reaction like that.
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Any moisture?

Rain or snow?

I've had my brake pads/shoes freeze to the rotor/drum and give a weird reaction like that.
It was raining when I parked it the night before and then the temps dropped.

Had not thought of that, Cruiser.
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So, a guy from Long Island has to learn about that from a guy in Arizona????

Well, the mountains of Arizona....
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Any moisture?

Rain or snow?

I've had my brake pads/shoes freeze to the rotor/drum and give a weird reaction like that.
Occam's razor- The simplest explanation is usually the right one.
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So, a guy from Long Island has to learn about that from a guy in Arizona????

Well, the mountains of Arizona....
Would the frozen brakes sound bad for 5 seconds of moving? Wouldn't it be a snap as the brakes brake free from the ice?
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Would the frozen brakes sound bad for 5 seconds of moving? Wouldn't it be a snap as the brakes brake free from the ice?
Depending on tire size 5 seconds would be just about one full revolution I think. And it would probably take a full revolution to clear it all off.

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Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
Depending on tire size 5 seconds would be just about one full revolution I think. And it would probably take a full revolution to clear it all off.
That makes sense. Thanks, Bugout
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Originally Posted by OldTires
That makes sense. Thanks, Bugout
Mr Cruiser deserves the credit Sir. I would have not thought of this possibility. Even though I am in Arizona too I am a flatlander and he is a highlander. lol

If it happens again you will probably recognize it as feeling similar to power braking.


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