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From: Carrollton, GA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output
I'll play your locker game... I was going up muddy hills and climbing stuff that TJ's on 33's in 4wd were having a hard time doing... one of them was locked but im 2wd open on 30's... so they had at least 2 or 3 tires doing something and i had one lol
Explain what happened
Explain what happened
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Year: 92
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No, it was 100% because of our lockers. It was simple to tell. When Kelvin hit the hill his *** end took him off to the side. He was locked in the rear. When I hit the hill, my front end slid off the hill. I am locked in the front.
What I am amazed at is that I actually have to explain myself. As if I would just figure you guys would already know this stuff? Most of they guys I know who have been wheeling for years know it. Can't figure out why you guys don't?
What I am amazed at is that I actually have to explain myself. As if I would just figure you guys would already know this stuff? Most of they guys I know who have been wheeling for years know it. Can't figure out why you guys don't?
when i hit a hill, as long as i am aimed straight....the jeep goes straight.
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From: Summerville, Ga
Year: 1995
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No, it was 100% because of our lockers. It was simple to tell. When Kelvin hit the hill his *** end took him off to the side. He was locked in the rear. When I hit the hill, my front end slid off the hill. I am locked in the front.
What I am amazed at is that I actually have to explain myself. As if I would just figure you guys would already know this stuff? Most of they guys I know who have been wheeling for years know it. Can't figure out why you guys don't?
What I am amazed at is that I actually have to explain myself. As if I would just figure you guys would already know this stuff? Most of they guys I know who have been wheeling for years know it. Can't figure out why you guys don't?
And however you changed your original response, i'll reply to it anyways. Asking guys why they trailer their rigs to the trail is completely different then asking you why you would want to get 4 mpg running 38's just to only see the benefit from it once a month.
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driver error, simple as that. i see it ALL the time while wheeling with the amount of different people i wheel with. i see F/R locked rigs struggle on plenty of things they should walk over simply because of driver.
when i hit a hill, as long as i am aimed straight....the jeep goes straight.
when i hit a hill, as long as i am aimed straight....the jeep goes straight.
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
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From: The Florida State University
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
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Ok buddy, whatever you say.
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
Same place different rock pile. Nick goes over it no issue (I don't know his axles specs). Same 2012 JK goes over, breaks a front control arm and snaps the rear axle. It's all about the driver.
Put Ken Block in a Honda Civic and he could probably drive it just as well as his rally and drift cars.
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Ok buddy, whatever you say.
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
and the first guy, i dont know how you cant say that wasnt driver error,
and the second guy who made it, stayed in it when he should have.
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Talking to you guys in an honest fashion is like talking to a brick wall. A blind man could see the difference.
I knew what you were going to say before I posted it. But my hope was someone out there watching this could see some good info regardless of what self proclaimed guru's spouted.
Later, and hope you had a good thanksgiving.
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Talking to you guys in an honest fashion is like talking to a brick wall. A blind man could see the difference.
I knew what you were going to say before I posted it. But my hope was someone out there watching this could see some good info regardless of what self proclaimed guru's spouted.
Later, and hope you had a good thanksgiving.
I knew what you were going to say before I posted it. But my hope was someone out there watching this could see some good info regardless of what self proclaimed guru's spouted.
Later, and hope you had a good thanksgiving.
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From: +34° 25' 35.67", -81° 21' 12.04"
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Ok buddy, whatever you say.
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
Here is a video. Take a guess which one is open, which one is locked in the rear, and which one is locked in the front.
http://s18.beta.photobucket.com/user...ntage.mp4.html
I want to see these hard lines you take in your Jeep.
My Turkey Day was spectacular. Thanks for asking.
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Dude, I have a basically stock xj with 32" tires. WTH do you think I am going to do with it, compete in competition crawling?
Later
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Or we would not be arguing. especially with a guy with a basically stock xj on 32" tires.
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From: +34° 25' 35.67", -81° 21' 12.04"
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Well mine was kind of lazy and relaxed. So that is a good thing.
It only took a tiny mud hill to prove you wrong. Are you certain you want me to post something difficult?
Dude I just have a short armed soccer mom suv. Thats it. The only thing I claim is I have a ball on the trails. And I will try the hardest line out there as long as I don't risk scratching the mall crawler. Got to look good you know. I wheel in grassy fields and uneven pavement, top that!. Some times I hit gravel roads with steep downhills. Shoot I drove through a ditch the other day!
We will let you guru's handle the rough stuff.
And show us what is up.
Later
It only took a tiny mud hill to prove you wrong. Are you certain you want me to post something difficult?
Dude I just have a short armed soccer mom suv. Thats it. The only thing I claim is I have a ball on the trails. And I will try the hardest line out there as long as I don't risk scratching the mall crawler. Got to look good you know. I wheel in grassy fields and uneven pavement, top that!. Some times I hit gravel roads with steep downhills. Shoot I drove through a ditch the other day!
We will let you guru's handle the rough stuff.
And show us what is up.
Later
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I take it the N is for Nick?
. Honestly its obvious what happened. I know how to drive. . That is not the point. You and everyone else saw where an open wheeled vehicle made a slick line look easy. And that guy was a complete newb.
. If what you are saying holds any water, then why are lockers not good on ice or slick snow? Because they will slide you off the road.
HELLO!!!!
Last edited by holycaveman; Nov 23, 2012 at 12:12 AM.
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Alright lets quit this messing around. Guys this is basic stuff here its not rocket science!
Its like when you try telling someone on a motorcycle you have to turn the handlebars right to go left. People just can't get it. And they have been riding their whole lives.
It all depends on where you wheel. All serious now. If you are in rocks, and like terrain. Then I personally would prefer to be locked front and rear. Its a no brainer.
But on slick trails, a lot of the time open is great. And that is a lot of where I wheel. Sometimes being locked keeps you from holding a line. And that is really all I am saying.
Its like when you try telling someone on a motorcycle you have to turn the handlebars right to go left. People just can't get it. And they have been riding their whole lives.
It all depends on where you wheel. All serious now. If you are in rocks, and like terrain. Then I personally would prefer to be locked front and rear. Its a no brainer.
But on slick trails, a lot of the time open is great. And that is a lot of where I wheel. Sometimes being locked keeps you from holding a line. And that is really all I am saying.