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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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yeah its kinda a two way street ive meet auto techs that are damn book smart and aced there A.S.Es and are master techs and have no clue how to work on cars. or test them ... on point some people can tell you how to do it and how it works but when it comes to hands on real world have no idea, and me i have to read stuff like ten times to really comprehend and understand it
I'm opposite of that, I read it once and I understand it, remember it and can apply it.

However if you ask me to write an essay, be creative, or w/e else I'm useless.

I'd say I'm mechanically inclined though. I'm weird. lol
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mr-warwagon
yeah its kinda a two way street ive meet auto techs that are damn book smart and aced there A.S.Es and are master techs and have no clue how to work on cars. or test them ... on point some people can tell you how to do it and how it works but when it comes to hands on real world have no idea, and me i have to read stuff like ten times to really comprehend and understand it
The only thing I've found over the years that an ASE cert is good for is adding a level of comfort for first time customers.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ih8cornnuts
Speaking of which and sorry to slightly derail the thread but what are some good manuals. I've used haynes and chiltons before with mixed luck and Bentleys that were great but costly. What do you guys prefer?
The Factory Service Manual is usually worth it if you intend to do a decent amount of work to your vehicle.

If I recall I paid less than $100 for mine. That very quickly can be amortized over the number of times you refer to it. Time is money.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
The only thing I've found over the years that an ASE cert is good for is adding a level of comfort for first time customers.
yeah you said it makes for a good interview though
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks guys, I usually like to have something in the car with me as well as use the forums. I've already learned so much reading through the Tech and how-to's.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by No4x4Yet
I think you should def do the work you can, but also know your own abilities. And not everyone has the supplies or room to do everything they. Ive been gettin real tired of working in the driveway lately. It really makes it a pain to get anythin done have to work around the weather.
Yes, I too have only a driveway and winter weather really sucks for wanting to do stuff!

It's too bad the fix-your-own garage bays you could rent aren't around any more most places. But I think that's directly because cars have become so much more complex in the last 30 years, so there isn't as much of a market/profit for them.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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I do basically all my own work. keeps me sane. If I'm not tinkering on something, I get depressed. Jeeps, especially 2001 & older models are simple. There is so much information around to help with just about any problem. Plus, there are so many, that you're most likely not the first person whose ever had your particular disaster of the moment.

Fords, on the other had, give me hives from past experience. The engineering is always too clever by half and ends up being overly difficult to maintain. (Try removing the interior plastics on a Ford.) Though, I just picked up an absolutely cherry 97 F150 4x4 Lariat with the 5.4L motor for cheap. The 4x4 didn't work and the brakes were terrible. The PO, (my best friend's widow) had taken it to several shops for the brakes and they told her they didn't see anything wrong with it. (She wasn't aware that the 4x4 was out.)

As soon as I got it home and looked at it I knew what was wrong with the brakes. It has rear drums and the adjusters had worn to the point that they weren't contacting the starwheels. A quick adjustment with a hammer on each side and the brakes are now great again.

Fixing the 4x4 required a few google searches and reading a couple threads on an F150 forum to figure out that it was probably one of the front end vacuum solenoids. I tested them and sure enough, the one that engages the front locker was seized. $49 at the local Ford dealer and the truck is now capable of pulling itself out of its muddy parking spot. (Although the Cherokee did fine the two times I had to pull it out before I figured out what was wrong with it.)
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Spunkmeyer
Yes, I too have only a driveway and winter weather really sucks for wanting to do stuff!

It's too bad the fix-your-own garage bays you could rent aren't around any more most places. But I think that's directly because cars have become so much more complex in the last 30 years, so there isn't as much of a market/profit for them.
Mostly legal reasons. Way too many ways to be sued with those.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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What about small storage rental places? They're not too expensive and some even have power.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
Mostly legal reasons. Way too many ways to be sued with those.
Yeah, insurance for that sort of operation these days would probably be through the roof.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Spunkmeyer
Yeah, insurance for that sort of operation these days would probably be through the roof.
probably similar to insurance costs on an offroad park. Friend of mine has 200 acres and wanted to open a park, he was quoted something like 20 000$ for insurance... thats per month by the way...
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
probably similar to insurance costs on an offroad park. Friend of mine has 200 acres and wanted to open a park, he was quoted something like 20 000$ for insurance... thats per month by the way...
that 19x what my jeep is worth lol
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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When I started turning a wrench I did it all in my drive way. Or in a random parking lot were I broke down. So that excuse don't work with me and I had no one to show me the ins and outs. As time went on I got into Jeeps for there well known quality. Soon I met Jeep people and they answered any ?'s I had and gave me a hand when I needed it. Now I return the favor to any other Jeeper I come across. That's how it works. Its a Jeep thing if your not interested then why are you here?
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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and you cant argue with that
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by brutalxj
When I started turning a wrench I did it all in my drive way. Or in a random parking lot were I broke down. So that excuse don't work with me and I had no one to show me the ins and outs. As time went on I got into Jeeps for there well known quality. Soon I met Jeep people and they answered any ?'s I had and gave me a hand when I needed it. Now I return the favor to any other Jeeper I come across. That's how it works. Its a Jeep thing if your not interested then why are you here?
LOL. Get over yourself. Nobody popped out of their momma's womb knowing how this stuff worked.

People somewhere along the way helped to educate you on what you needed to know. Either return the favor or don't, but don't look down your nose on people who don't know as much as you do. Once upon a time, you were right where they are.

Jesus, this place cracks me up sometimes. More insecure *****-waving going on here than a middle school gym locker room...
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