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Old 05-20-2013, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
breaking an axle isn't so much about how much torque you have going to it, but instead speed. if you are in 1:1 and roasting your tires off you will most likely break when your tires find sudden traction. something has to give. crawling in low you should only break if you bind up the tire in a crack or under a ledge. being a throttle jockey breaks stuff



here's a quick list of everything I've broken since I went to 35's
popped a cap off a ujoint - upgraded to nitro alloys and ujoints
wasted a zj TRE - 1 ton steering now
both LCA bushings
broke the welds off my double shear track bar mount
unit bearing completely shot
twisted splines on a D30 shaft
and my brakes still SUCK!

list of things I broke on 33's
nothing
Sad to say it looks like we agree here on most things. LOL

I believe though a lot of breaks people experience are not necessarily due to tire size or gear reduction .

For instance with my 31's I broke a front carrier and I snapped a left side axle and joint. Since my new aggressive and heavier 33's I have not broken anything. And as far as I am concerned I have wheeled it harder with the 33's.

My only explanation is that things do break. And when its time to go its time to go.

But now more than in the past I am always checking everything out to try and for see failures.

I also am not heavy on the skinny pedal unless I have to be.

I am very confident that I could run 38" tires on my stock axles and not break anything. Not that I would advise anyone to do this. I have a feel for it you could say.

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I am very confident that I could run 38" tires on my stock axles and not break anything. Not that I would advise anyone to do this. I have a feel for it you could say.
I've wheeled with a guy on naxja who runs locked/locked 30/44 on 39.5 iroks. stock 3.55's. he doesn't break anything because he can't spin his tires fast enough to do any damage. it's miserable following him over some obstacles that require some throttle but his jeep just can't do it. I'd rather run a smaller tire and rail the **** out of it than a tire that my axles just can't handle

he was wheeling with a guy who runs 36's on his 4.88 D30 and he's sheared off like 3 rings now http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost....&postcount=192

it can be done. why you would ever want to just beats me. same with this thread. I'd 10x rather run a skinny 33 locked/locked than 35's on stock gears
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I've wheeled with a guy on naxja who runs locked/locked 30/44 on 39.5 iroks. stock 3.55's. he doesn't break anything because he can't spin his tires fast enough to do any damage. it's miserable following him over some obstacles that require some throttle but his jeep just can't do it. I'd rather run a smaller tire and rail the **** out of it than a tire that my axles just can't handle

he was wheeling with a guy who runs 36's on his 4.88 D30 and he's sheared off like 3 rings now http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost....&postcount=192

it can be done. why you would ever want to just beats me. same with this thread. I'd 10x rather run a skinny 33 locked/locked than 35's on stock gears
Yea I would to!

A friend of mine has a f250 on 44's stock gearing. It has the power of a vw. LOL

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Originally Posted by Atmos

breaking an axle isn't so much about how much torque you have going to it, but instead speed. if you are in 1:1 and roasting your tires off you will most likely break when your tires find sudden traction. something has to give. crawling in low you should only break if you bind up the tire in a crack or under a ledge. being a throttle jockey breaks stuff

here's a quick list of everything I've broken since I went to 35's
popped a cap off a ujoint - upgraded to nitro alloys and ujoints
wasted a zj TRE - 1 ton steering now
both LCA bushings
broke the welds off my double shear track bar mount
unit bearing completely shot
twisted splines on a D30 shaft
and my brakes still SUCK!

list of things I broke on 33's
nothing
Dang thats a lot of broke stuff. I plan on long arms, 1 ton steering and upgraded chromoly axle shafts.
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Dang thats a lot of broke stuff. I plan on long arms, 1 ton steering and upgraded chromoly axle shafts.
do all that stuff first then put on 35's. I dont know why everyone seems to be in such a rush to get 35's.

just wait. grab some 33x10.5's and a front lunchbox locker and have fun wheeling and actually enjoy driving to work. save up for gears in the meantime
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you don't even need 35's anyway. probably 90% of the forum doesnt need 35's. the only reason I got 35's is because I actually started running into obstacles that required bigger tires
locked 33's will probably take you everywhere you want to go

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do all that stuff first then put on 35's. I dont know why everyone seems to be in such a rush to get 35's.

just wait. grab some 33x10.5's and a front lunchbox locker and have fun wheeling and actually enjoy driving to work. save up for gears in the meantime
The more you explain the down sides the more Im thinking of getting either a swamper or baja claw in a 33. I am heeding your advice some and you have me thinking more and for that I say thank you.
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Absolutely do whatever you like with your jeep in what order you like. The fact that you're willing to listen to opinions and compromise puts you 2 steps ahead of the rest of the folks asking questions around here

It doesn't even need to be that aggressive of a tire. My 33" bfgs took my through some nasty **** I'm still waiting on a vid that my friend won't upload. Just a simple mud tire the did well on that street.

I guess It all depends on what direction you're taking your build and how much street it will see
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Absolutely do whatever you like with your jeep in what order you like. The fact that you're willing to listen to opinions and compromise puts you 2 steps ahead of the rest of the folks asking questions around here

It doesn't even need to be that aggressive of a tire. My 33" bfgs took my through some nasty **** I'm still waiting on a vid that my friend won't upload. Just a simple mud tire the did well on that street.

I guess It all depends on what direction you're taking your build and how much street it will see
I plan on it being a trail rig/weekend driver and I personally dont care for a bfg just because they dont clean out very well in the swamps we have around here. My Pro Comp A/Ts do decent but not as well as I would like and they are a bit to small to get to the best hunting spots at my hunting club.
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Originally Posted by Slim357
I personally dont care for a bfg just because they dont clean out very well.
very true
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every other day theres another thread about someone wanting to put 35s on a budget-lifted, no drivetrain work hacked together facebook masterpiece of a XJ.

do it. i prefer to not drive a rubber band wet noodle down the road.
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Originally Posted by Atmos

very true
Thats why I like swampers but just cuz I like them doesnt meen I can afford them right now lol. What are your thoughts on a lock right locker with 33s and for the time being 30s?
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When my 33x12.50 baja claws wear out I'll be running 35s. You can get away with 35s on a 3inch lift with alittle bit of work.. But I would think you would at the very least need to regear...
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Ah now see we are getting somewhere.

100% that for most people 33's are great. And will do 90% of the trails.

The delima is where does one stop? We have a climb called Excalibur. Last run a xj with 36” tsl's attempted it. There was no way unless you had 40's or up. It was a narrow shoot and you had to be able to clear the boulders. So do you go 40’s now? Where does it end? Well for me its ending with 33's. With shaved axles I have more under my diff than most big axle jeeps with 36" tires. So for me I am going g to have to be content with 33's. And if I can't make it, I can't make it.

Sometimes, some lines, smaller tires are king. There is always a trade off.

I live in the swamps also. I have to have a. aggressive tire to run the trails. And I am not much I to mud running.

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Main reason I want 35 is they are bad a$$ but I like even numbered tires better for some reason so I may end up going with a 34" LTB if I can find them that is


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