made to pay for services not recieved
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whoa fellas.. lets look at this reasonably..
Ok.. so the OP purchased 2 fobs.. and there was a problem with his vehicle that prevented it from communicating.. this took 20 minutes..
The shop should have offered to diagnose and repair the issue.. if not.. the OP owes a half hour labor rate... and he could possibly return the fobs to the dealership if they are still in "new" condition... IF he purchased them through the parts department
technically the shop used half a man hour to TRY to fix it.. it is not their fault that there is something preventing them from performing the work... when working on flat rate.. this is just the way the business works..
Now lets say the OP has a good relationship with the shop... they COULD wave the labor rate to keep the customer.. but.. this rarely happens unless its a big ticket customer
This is the way the world works.. if you have to take your vehicle to a certified professional because you could not fix a particular issue.. then he should be paid a fair rate for the job that he performed.. he started the work with good intentions to complete the repair.. but due to circumstances beyond his control with YOUR vehicle.. he could not.. So is it his fault? Should he not be able to make his wages?
I completely understand the OP's frustration... but in the auto repair business... this is how it is.. you have to see it from their side as well..
Ok.. so the OP purchased 2 fobs.. and there was a problem with his vehicle that prevented it from communicating.. this took 20 minutes..
The shop should have offered to diagnose and repair the issue.. if not.. the OP owes a half hour labor rate... and he could possibly return the fobs to the dealership if they are still in "new" condition... IF he purchased them through the parts department
technically the shop used half a man hour to TRY to fix it.. it is not their fault that there is something preventing them from performing the work... when working on flat rate.. this is just the way the business works..
Now lets say the OP has a good relationship with the shop... they COULD wave the labor rate to keep the customer.. but.. this rarely happens unless its a big ticket customer
This is the way the world works.. if you have to take your vehicle to a certified professional because you could not fix a particular issue.. then he should be paid a fair rate for the job that he performed.. he started the work with good intentions to complete the repair.. but due to circumstances beyond his control with YOUR vehicle.. he could not.. So is it his fault? Should he not be able to make his wages?
I completely understand the OP's frustration... but in the auto repair business... this is how it is.. you have to see it from their side as well..
Given the circumstances, mister OP, if you haven't already had a confrontation with the dealership, I'd suggest making them an offer to pay for the straight time worked. Clearly the quoted job was not performed, but acknowledge to them that the world doesn't run on magic and charity. Hopefully they'll recognize the value in this good customer relation and you'll save a few bucks.
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If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't` eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't` eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".
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If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't` eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't` eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".

Oh yeah, high five for the mod posting politics and religion
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