long arms or rear locker.
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Lincoln locker? I'll have to google that one. haven't heard of it. I wheel hard, but It's on the road more. and when a vehicle is out of comission, the wife needs to use it. I think an auto locker will drive her crazy, or make her nervous something is about to break!
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A lincoln locker is the same thing as welding up your axles.. People call it a Lincoln locker because Lincoln is a popular welding machine. That and Miller locker just sounds stupid.
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auto lockers are pretty unnoticeable in the rear. at least my detroit is. happy street driving onroad confident traction offroad
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Also thanks for the Lincoln explanation...feel like an idiot. Three years it took to figure that out :-[
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spartan = ratcheting/lunchbox/drop-in locker etc. replaces only the spider gears inside the carrier. ratchets pops and bangs but they're cheap. I run one in front
detroit/yukon/ARB and others = full case lockers. they replace the entire carrier and hold the ring. auto lockers unlock when you let off the gas. shafts spin freely around turns
detroit/yukon/ARB and others = full case lockers. they replace the entire carrier and hold the ring. auto lockers unlock when you let off the gas. shafts spin freely around turns
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Don't qualify for bill me later :-( gotta wait till taxes, but most definitely going with Serious long arms, thank you very much!
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So Serious, another question since you have been so helpful(Along w/ everyone else). My rear leaf springs, they RC, so they are short. I dont want to deal with the relocation bracket, and a couple of guys on here are intersted in mine. if I were to get new leaf springs(want at least 5.5) should I get lift shackles as well, for more articulation? So should I get a proper set of 4.5 leaf with a lift shackle? Or get 5.5 leaf with my stock shackle?
Anyone else, your welcome to chime in!
Anyone else, your welcome to chime in!
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Now im just regretting not going long arms the first time around
If you want a more capable rig, locker for sure, If you want to outflex your friends, then longer control arms.
Shortarms can flex more than enough. I'm willing to bet 95% of the people on this forum have never lifted a tire with their swaybars disconnected.
Longer control arms are beneficial for sure, but the added flex you can gain is one of the last reasons to switch to them imo. I would rather have a tire in the air and a tire firmly planted while both getting power, than a tire firmly planted and a tire barely planted with only the barely planted one getting the power.
Shortarms can flex more than enough. I'm willing to bet 95% of the people on this forum have never lifted a tire with their swaybars disconnected.
Longer control arms are beneficial for sure, but the added flex you can gain is one of the last reasons to switch to them imo. I would rather have a tire in the air and a tire firmly planted while both getting power, than a tire firmly planted and a tire barely planted with only the barely planted one getting the power.
So Serious, another question since you have been so helpful(Along w/ everyone else). My rear leaf springs, they RC, so they are short. I dont want to deal with the relocation bracket, and a couple of guys on here are intersted in mine. if I were to get new leaf springs(want at least 5.5) should I get lift shackles as well, for more articulation? So should I get a proper set of 4.5 leaf with a lift shackle? Or get 5.5 leaf with my stock shackle?
Anyone else, your welcome to chime in!
Anyone else, your welcome to chime in!
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That last explanation is leaving me with hopes for both upgrades. I'm gonna lean towards the long arms and lock the rear if I regear. Thanks again for all the great info!
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