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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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well, i got to fix the floor on my xj, and i figured it was about time i learn how to weld, lol, rather than pay big $$ to get someone else to do it...

so basicly im looking to buy a mig welder, something not too expensive, but considering i know nothing about them i dont know which to get or what power...ect...

was looking for a bit of help at what kind of welder i would be looking to purchase?

ill be welding things on my jeep(floor, frame stiffners, axle brackets...ect)


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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Hobart handler wouldnt be bad.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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is that a 110v or 220v? whats the diff between a 110 and 220?
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 05:15 AM
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110v is good for thinner metals like sheet metal 220 is going to do the thicker metals and being it uses a 220 plug you will need a electrician to run you one.If you don't know 220 is the big plug a stove or clothes dryer uses it has to be on its own breaker and ran as one piece of wire.

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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I would go with a 220v welder if you can. It can do thicker metal, and you can turn the "heat" down on it to sheet metal also. When comparing welders, look for one that has the best duty cycle that you can afford. Stay away from flux core welders as they burn a little too hot for sheet metal and they spatter a lot which means more clean up of your welds. I started out with a harbor freight flux core welder which wasn't that great and I moved up to a 110v lincoln. I wished I bought a 220v, but its all I could afford at the time. Hope this helps!
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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110v is good for thinner metals like sheet metal 220 is going to do the thicker metals and being it uses a 220 plug you will need a electrician to run you one.If you don't know 220 is the big plug a stove or clothes dryer uses it has to be on its own breaker and ran as one piece of wire.

ya i got a big 220v industial arc welder(the one with the rods...i think its arc?)its from the 80's but i never used it it was my dads before he passed and i dont wanna learn on it because i heard it was harder to use than a mig...


but....

looks like my plans have changed...got my truck siezed this morning and brought to the impound because of the hole in the floor...gonna cost 600 to get it out plus then i gotta pay for all reparations and inspections...i just cant afford it...now it needs a full inspection before it will be road worthy, so im thinking of picking up another XJ for my project because i want to drive on the road still....then maybe ill just keep this one for a trail only truck for me to fiddle around on...

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Stick is super easy to weld but its not pretty

Wait, impounded for a hole?
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Wow. Wonder what they would have done to me. I had NO floors.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJerm
Stick is super easy to weld but its not pretty

Wait, impounded for a hole?
well to be fair there was no floor left under drivers feet, just frame rail....but considering i was 2 min walk from my house the guy could have been cool bout it....now that he waved it for inspection, theres nothing i can do, i would be spending more to pass it through inspection versus buying a new one...
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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There's like 100 threads on this subject.
I own a Hobart handler 140 110v it can handle most jobs up to 1/4 inch.
I trade off having to make a second pass for portability.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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To me arc was easier to use then mig but a mig gives a better looking weld.That sucks they impounded it over a rust hole most of us in the states get away with murder when it comes to road worthy.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 06:01 AM
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lol. The province next to mine(Quebec) they dont even require inspections as long as the vehicle is transfered between two Quebec residents. When I was living there I bought a beater car as my DD and it was so bad I couldnt jack it up to change the tires because the body just crumpled.

Most the vehicles in that province are being held together with old poutine containers and dried up pepsi spilt on the floor.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
lol. The province next to mine(Quebec) they dont even require inspections as long as the vehicle is transfered between two Quebec residents. When I was living there I bought a beater car as my DD and it was so bad I couldnt jack it up to change the tires because the body just crumpled.

Most the vehicles in that province are being held together with old poutine containers and dried up pepsi spilt on the floor.
ya im from montreal quebec....and no a vehicle does not need an inspection when being sold...but if it has not been plated for a year or more it will need an inspection to be road worthy, if its older than 25 years and being sold then it needs an inspection...or if a cop flags you for an inspection...

the problem with inspections here is not that they do an inspection, its that there inspection is almost impossible to pass, in order to pass it must be in a like new condition ... mechanicly, body, frame, and esthetically, so basicly they wont pass it unless its like new....

and to top it all off...they give me 10 days to get it all fixed and inspected....wtf you want me to do in 10 days...



on another note...i found this one for not too expensive... http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ370982510 im gonna see if i can pick it up tomorrow for 2000$, what u guys think?

or i can go complete stock and get this http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ374371749

im thinking on the modified one, just to save me some $$ on some pieces and upgrades...

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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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I'm starting to understand why that guy i found has been importing Canadian jeeps to Michigan for really cheap. When I registered and tagged my jeep in Michigan that I brought from N Carolina with Vermont title, they just asked if i bought it from a relative. The jeep was still out of state lol
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OttawaXJ
lol. The province next to mine(Quebec) they dont even require inspections as long as the vehicle is transfered between two Quebec residents. When I was living there I bought a beater car as my DD and it was so bad I couldnt jack it up to change the tires because the body just crumpled.

Most the vehicles in that province are being held together with old poutine containers and dried up pepsi spilt on the floor.
That does suck. We have no inspections what so ever in Arkansas all we need is insurance to get tags lol. I don't think i would own a street legal vehicles if the had to pass inspections.
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