I now see how dangerous this thing is
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From: Middletown, Ohio
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6 4.0L
Today i was stuck, alone, in a creek.
I'm pretty sure it was private property so i couldn't call anyone, and i was miles from a road. Tried to clear a steep island with a drop off into the water onto another island about 5 feet away. I cleared it, went down, the front drivers wheel stayed down, and buried itself and water was about 2inches from rushing into the intake. The rig was sort of tottering on the first island. So the drivers back wheel was on the ground, but the passenger wasn't. Gassing it in 2wheel just bogged out. No movement at all, and the other wheel spun freely. 4wheel buried the front drivers deeper. I couldn't get out unless i crawled thru the passenger side because the drivers was jammed half on the island, half in water. I don't know how i got it, but jamming as many logs and rocks under the wheel that wouldn't touch the ground, and holding reverse in 4wheel did it. AFTER rolling back to the main road, i see my tires flat, and custom rim is destroyed.
SO. the point of my narrative is; how do i make it so my stock gears actually turn my 31 inch tires under load in my D35. How do i keep both turning instead of just the one. At the same time, i'm looking for body parts. The whole front clip is destroyed.
Funny part is, a guy with a Ford stopped to help when i got to the street working on the flat. I told him i get what i deserve for being a kid, alone, unexperienced, and he said nah i have a cherokee too, dont worry about it, its that Jeep thing.
SO. the point of my narrative is; how do i make it so my stock gears actually turn my 31 inch tires under load in my D35. How do i keep both turning instead of just the one. At the same time, i'm looking for body parts. The whole front clip is destroyed.
Funny part is, a guy with a Ford stopped to help when i got to the street working on the flat. I told him i get what i deserve for being a kid, alone, unexperienced, and he said nah i have a cherokee too, dont worry about it, its that Jeep thing.
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From: Ohio
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
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Today i was stuck, alone, in a creek.
I'm pretty sure it was private property so i couldn't call anyone, and i was miles from a road. Tried to clear a steep island with a drop off into the water onto another island about 5 feet away. I cleared it, went down, the front drivers wheel stayed down, and buried itself and water was about 2inches from rushing into the intake. The rig was sort of tottering on the first island. So the drivers back wheel was on the ground, but the passenger wasn't. Gassing it in 2wheel just bogged out. No movement at all, and the other wheel spun freely. 4wheel buried the front drivers deeper. I couldn't get out unless i crawled thru the passenger side because the drivers was jammed half on the island, half in water. I don't know how i got it, but jamming as many logs and rocks under the wheel that wouldn't touch the ground, and holding reverse in 4wheel did it. AFTER rolling back to the main road, i see my tires flat, and custom rim is destroyed.
SO. the point of my narrative is; how do i make it so my stock gears actually turn my 31 inch tires under load in my D35. How do i keep both turning instead of just the one. At the same time, i'm looking for body parts. The whole front clip is destroyed.
Funny part is, a guy with a Ford stopped to help when i got to the street working on the flat. I told him i get what i deserve for being a kid, alone, unexperienced, and he said nah i have a cherokee too, dont worry about it, its that Jeep thing.
SO. the point of my narrative is; how do i make it so my stock gears actually turn my 31 inch tires under load in my D35. How do i keep both turning instead of just the one. At the same time, i'm looking for body parts. The whole front clip is destroyed.
Funny part is, a guy with a Ford stopped to help when i got to the street working on the flat. I told him i get what i deserve for being a kid, alone, unexperienced, and he said nah i have a cherokee too, dont worry about it, its that Jeep thing.

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From: Durango, CO
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
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Today i was stuck, alone, in a creek.
I'm pretty sure it was private property so i couldn't call anyone, and i was miles from a road. Tried to clear a steep island with a drop off into the water onto another island about 5 feet away. I cleared it, went down, the front drivers wheel stayed down, and buried itself and water was about 2inches from rushing into the intake. The rig was sort of tottering on the first island. So the drivers back wheel was on the ground, but the passenger wasn't. Gassing it in 2wheel just bogged out. No movement at all, and the other wheel spun freely. 4wheel buried the front drivers deeper. I couldn't get out unless i crawled thru the passenger side because the drivers was jammed half on the island, half in water. I don't know how i got it, but jamming as many logs and rocks under the wheel that wouldn't touch the ground, and holding reverse in 4wheel did it. AFTER rolling back to the main road, i see my tires flat, and custom rim is destroyed.
SO. the point of my narrative is; how do i make it so my stock gears actually turn my 31 inch tires under load in my D35. How do i keep both turning instead of just the one. At the same time, i'm looking for body parts. The whole front clip is destroyed.
Funny part is, a guy with a Ford stopped to help when i got to the street working on the flat. I told him i get what i deserve for being a kid, alone, unexperienced, and he said nah i have a cherokee too, dont worry about it, its that Jeep thing.
SO. the point of my narrative is; how do i make it so my stock gears actually turn my 31 inch tires under load in my D35. How do i keep both turning instead of just the one. At the same time, i'm looking for body parts. The whole front clip is destroyed.
Funny part is, a guy with a Ford stopped to help when i got to the street working on the flat. I told him i get what i deserve for being a kid, alone, unexperienced, and he said nah i have a cherokee too, dont worry about it, its that Jeep thing.

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You just want both tires to spin, just buy a locking differential. If you don't already know, with your open diff you are only going to have 1 tire spin per axle and that is the tire with the least resistance. In your case the tire in the air had the least resistance so it is the one that spun
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You just want both tires to spin, just buy a locking differential. If you don't already know, with your open diff you are only going to have 1 tire spin per axle and that is the tire with the least resistance. In your case the tire in the air had the least resistance so it is the one that spun
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From: jackson nj
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
ive done something smilar except i thought it was public land and got my rear buried in sand (stupid vac line) when my brother got there he told me was one of the most patroled areas in the county
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From: Middletown, Ohio
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6 4.0L
Thank you!

You just want both tires to spin, just buy a locking differential. If you don't already know, with your open diff you are only going to have 1 tire spin per axle and that is the tire with the least resistance. In your case the tire in the air had the least resistance so it is the one that spun
I was pointed in the direction of a 8.25.
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you could just lock the d35 and get away with it on stock tires and up to 31's, but 33's will snap it with stock gears.
that's where you want the 8.25 from the 98 and up that has 29 spline axle shafts where as the earlier 8.25 only had 27 spline axle shafts. hence the 27/9 (27 or /29).
if you're planning on 33's, just replace the d35 now with a locked 8.25.
and don't wheel alone, especially in a no go zone. lol.
that's where you want the 8.25 from the 98 and up that has 29 spline axle shafts where as the earlier 8.25 only had 27 spline axle shafts. hence the 27/9 (27 or /29).
if you're planning on 33's, just replace the d35 now with a locked 8.25.
and don't wheel alone, especially in a no go zone. lol.
Then there are full carrier lockers like Eaton lockers and ARB lockers. They are much more but they are super strong. They are really geared toward people with 35+ tires that do tough wheeling.
For what it sounds you get into then a simple luchbox locker should do. My buddys run an Aussie locker in his 8.25 with stock 3.55 gears and 33 inch tires for over 2 years now and has never had a problem


