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Old May 7, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by caged
you could just lock the d35 and get away with it on stock tires and up to 31's, but 33's will snap it with stock gears.
that's where you want the 8.25 from the 98 and up that has 29 spline axle shafts where as the earlier 8.25 only had 27 spline axle shafts. hence the 27/9 (27 or /29).

if you're planning on 33's, just replace the d35 now with a locked 8.25.

and don't wheel alone, especially in a no go zone. lol.
I want to keep 31s, no smaller or bigger. I have had this for 2 years and offroaded maybe 5 times, all alone. This was the first time ive been stuck and had a casualty, so, just in case, what i have needs to be more dependable.

Originally Posted by DUDE454
To lock it all you do is buy a locking differential, companies make them and they replace some of the gears that are inside your diff right now. A cheaper but good company is Aussie Lockers, there is Lock rite lockers, Powertrax lockers (I have and love). These are spyder gear replacements and are typically called luchbox lockers. The most expensive listed there is the powertrax and mine was $550 with shipping. Aussie can be $300 mabe less if you look.
Then there are full carrier lockers like Eaton lockers and ARB lockers. They are much more but they are super strong. They are really geared toward people with 35+ tires that do tough wheeling.
For what it sounds you get into then a simple luchbox locker should do. My buddys run an Aussie locker in his 8.25 with stock 3.55 gears and 33 inch tires for over 2 years now and has never had a problem
Im definitely getting a 8.25, but what are the advantages? What does it have that the D35 doesn't? Would i NEED to buy a locker?

Also, im going to get 4.10 gears for it, and the guy im buying from said if i upgrade gears in back, i have to upgrade the front as well. Is that a recommendation, or a must?


Thanks guys, im appreciating all of this.
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Old May 7, 2011 | 11:16 PM
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it's a must.
otherwise, when you pull the 4wd lever, both diffs will want to turn at different speeds, thus grenading your t-case. not good.
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Old May 7, 2011 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by caged
it's a must.
otherwise, when you pull the 4wd lever, both diffs will want to turn at different speeds, thus grenading your t-case. not good.
I see.

So if i get the 8.25, and drop the 4.10 in, is it that easy? Take one set out, and put the new set in? Then same to the front (D30).

where would you guys recommend getting 4.10 for D30?
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Old May 7, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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And whys the 8.25 so much better than the D35?
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Old May 8, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by red97cherokeewithsunroof
And whys the 8.25 so much better than the D35?
It's a whole lot stronger and more reliable. Your better off getting an 8.25 and upgrading it then upgrading your d35. The 8.25 will be a whole lot better in the long run.
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Old May 8, 2011 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MonacaYankee
It's a whole lot stronger and more reliable. Your better off getting an 8.25 and upgrading it then upgrading your d35. The 8.25 will be a whole lot better in the long run.

Sweet. What makes it more reliable, and stronger?
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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It has 29 splines instead of the 35's 27 spline. And even the 27 spline 8.25s were better than the 35's. They just are better built
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Old May 8, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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the 8.25 has a larger axle tube at 3 inches, rather than the d35 at 2.75. they may also be thicker.

also the ring gear is larger which makes it stronger. the bearings are larger, shafts are larger with more splines, pumpkin is larger...

as for the gears, they need to be set up professionally, not just put together.
they can cost around 250 per axle for gears and install kit, then about 3-400 per axle for set up. that's if you remove the axles and take them to the shop. if they have to remove the axles from the jeep, it will cost more.

you are almost better off looking for a set from a 4 cylinder jeep, as those came with 4.10 as a stock option, and would just bolt in place of your existing ones, (for the most part).
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Old May 9, 2011 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by caged
the 8.25 has a larger axle tube at 3 inches, rather than the d35 at 2.75. they may also be thicker.

also the ring gear is larger which makes it stronger. the bearings are larger, shafts are larger with more splines, pumpkin is larger...

as for the gears, they need to be set up professionally, not just put together.
they can cost around 250 per axle for gears and install kit, then about 3-400 per axle for set up. that's if you remove the axles and take them to the shop. if they have to remove the axles from the jeep, it will cost more.

you are almost better off looking for a set from a 4 cylinder jeep, as those came with 4.10 as a stock option, and would just bolt in place of your existing ones, (for the most part).
4cyl huh? like...wronglers...what years and types of jeep should i look for??
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Old May 9, 2011 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by red97cherokeewithsunroof

4cyl huh? like...wronglers...what years and types of jeep should i look for??
4 cyl 5spd I believe is what came with them if you find one in a bone yard just take both front and rear then you just gotta swap em and get an alignment. Yes it's alot of work but probly save you a bunch of money in the long run
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Old May 9, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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4 cylinder cherokees, not sure about the 5 speed, as most with the 4.0L had higher gears (lower numerically).

i think the autos had the 4.10's. you can use wrangler axles, but you would need a tj front and yj rear.

better to just get xj axles. preferably from a newer model with the 8.25 rear.

stay away from the 89 and older as they have a different caliper/mounting bracket. unless yours is from those years.
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Old May 9, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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In your previous post, what do you mean by an install kit?
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Old May 10, 2011 | 04:54 AM
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install kit gives you your seals, bearings, bolts, gaskets, marking compound etc. depending on the company and whether you get their master installation kit or not.
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thanks a lo for the help caged
lookin forward to my options
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