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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Quazzimoto
Ive never seen jeep, happy and 2wd in the same sentense.. but I'll try haha. I was just sharing what I would do, and think nothing more nothing less. Unless I am mistaking thats what he asked for. And I'm not shooting from the hip telling someone who wants to make it a lowrider not to, clearly he wants a 4x4 so I advised him to the best route he can go in his current circumstances.
ok i just reread what i wrote lol, it doesn't make any sense ..
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by razor02097
There is nothing wrong with building up a 2WD. You can always convert it later.

As far as it not being a big cost? If only...

Best way is to get a doner vehicle. If not you will be nickel and dimed to death.


The nice thing about 2WD is they are generally much cheaper. You could get a 2WD for $1000 and the same thing in 4WD would cost $2000... just because it is 4WD it adds a lot to the price. Also if it was 4WD there is more of a chance that it was abused off road.
True and false.. Most vehicles have a bigger difference in value between 2 and 4wd. In the case of a cherokee tho, there so cheap i kelly blu booked it same truck 2wd is 1450, and the 4wd is only 1815.. Also there are plenty of jeeps out there that have never seen more than a dirt road.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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kbb and nada value are useless when it comes to things like these unless you are a dealer, everyone knows that. the market price is determined by where you live and hte value of like vehicles in your area.

i can't find anything with the letters jeep in the manufacturer for less then 2k ever around here
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by superj
i can't find anything with the letters jeep in the manufacturer for less then 2k ever around here
Same problem here
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by superj
kbb and nada value are useless when it comes to things like these unless you are a dealer, everyone knows that. the market price is determined by where you live and hte value of like vehicles in your area.

i can't find anything with the letters jeep in the manufacturer for less then 2k ever around here
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Same problem here
Both of you need to come to FL n buy a cherokee there a dime a dozen arond here.

And kbb dosent mean **** to a dealer.. I sold cars for 2 years and my dad is the GM of a chevy dealer. most people use kbb as a loose guideline like I did.. Everyone knows that.. haha

Check it. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/1821035970.html that is the norm around here cherokees arent woth dog crap here it's awsome

Heres an even better 1 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/1814286474.html

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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Quazzimoto
Both of you need to come to FL n buy a cherokee there a dime a dozen arond here.

And kbb dosent mean **** to a dealer.. I sold cars for 2 years and my dad is the GM of a chevy dealer. most people use kbb as a loose guideline like I did.. Everyone knows that.. haha

Check it. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/1821035970.html that is the norm around here cherokees arent woth dog crap here it's awsome

Heres an even better 1 http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/1814286474.html

It does not matter how easy it is to find Cherokees in FL. I was Just saying the OP might not have the means or easy access to a 4WD. Bashing him for lifting and locking a 2WD is unnecessary and rude. It's his ride he can do what he wants.

I failed to see where he asked "should I build my 2WD Jeep or should I buy a 4WD?"

We know you opinion already. If you don't want to help we aren't forcing you to visit this thread.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by razor02097
It does not matter how easy it is to find Cherokees in FL. I was Just saying the OP might not have the means or easy access to a 4WD. Bashing him for lifting and locking a 2WD is unnecessary and rude. It's his ride he can do what he wants.

I failed to see where he asked "should I build my 2WD Jeep or should I buy a 4WD?"

We know you opinion already. If you don't want to help we aren't forcing you to visit this thread.
Who pissed in your corn flakes? Please show me were i was rude to the op. He clearly wanted a 4x4 I simply stated that converting to a 4x4 wasnt as hard as most think. Pull your thong out of you're *** and chill.

I only say he will regret it because he wanted a 4x4 to begin with. If he had his heart set on building a 2wd and wanted nothing else I wouldnt have said shizz.

He can do what he wants but he's asking us for oppinions I gave it. I have done nothing wrong go color or something.

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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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All I was trying to say is listings in FL doesn't necessarily help somebody many states away. Access to a 4WD may not be feasible. As I said he can always convert it later. He has a low mile XJ in the older body style which is pretty rare to see...At least around here.

I apologize sometimes I come across as a **** when I don't mean to.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by razor02097
All I was trying to say is listings in FL doesn't necessarily help somebody many states away. Access to a 4WD may not be feasible. As I said he can always convert it later. He has a low mile XJ in the older body style which is pretty rare to see...At least around here.

I apologize sometimes I come across as a **** when I don't mean to.
Like I said all I was saying is what I would do. Hes a teenager he has stated many times he has a very limited budget. So if he spent the bulk of money he was planning on spending converting it now it would make more sense, everything else can be done over time while the xj is still being driven. Converting it is more extensive meaning he would be out of a vehicle until he can finish. See what I mean if he saves up and knocks it out now its wayyy less time spent without a ride. Hes not a grown man with a wife that has a car he can borrow. You cant say that dosent make sense. No harm done, you dont have to go color you can stay lol j/k
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Here in europe the gas versions are rare like the diesels in the USA, a 1993 model might cost 5/6000 euros, that is 7000 dollars. 2WD don't exist, all we have is diesels either the older 2.1 renault turbo or the 2.5 VM turbo. Those are cheap.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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It would make more sense to collect the parts he needs. Converting it to 4WD is pretty much a 1 shot deal you have to do a large amount of swapping of major components. The only way I could see it being done in stages is the front axle being swapped, hopefully the manual trans doesn't need to be swapped. The T case, cross member and drive shafts have to be done all the same time.

IMO 2WD to 4WD conversion should be another thread. For the build he can do lift, wheels and tires and engine upgrades without hindering the ability to convert.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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The tranny tail extention and the output shaft need to be swapped aswell.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Quazzimoto and razor02097 stop the bickering on this thread. If you feel the need to continue to bash each other do it through the PM system. This crap is whats ruining this forum. If you two have no more constructive remarks then leave this thread alone.

Let the kid build up his rig. So what if its 2wd, at least he'll use it more then most of the mall crawlers on the street today. Plus im sure later on down the road he'll convert it or swap all the parts over to a 4x4 if he gets one.

As for everyone he's looking for specific brands on the parts he wants. just an FYI to get everyone back on track after this derailment
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tankerblade
Quazzimoto and razor02097 stop the bickering on this thread. If you feel the need to continue to bash each other do it through the PM system. This crap is whats ruining this forum. If you two have no more constructive remarks then leave this thread alone.

Let the kid build up his rig. So what if its 2wd, at least he'll use it more then most of the mall crawlers on the street today. Plus im sure later on down the road he'll convert it or swap all the parts over to a 4x4 if he gets one.

As for everyone he's looking for specific brands on the parts he wants. just an FYI to get everyone back on track after this derailment
Hey I'm on your side, I said there was nothing wrong with building the 2WD.



To the OP

For the locker a lunchbox style should suit the needs

If you are going for a lift a budget style with a shackle rear will prevent a rear sag that an AAL system might cause.


Bumpers, armor and recovery all depends on the budget.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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whew, been gone for 2 days and this is what i see ... haha jk. I'im not going to do a conversion, mostly because i just dont feel like it, and im not rock crawling or anything to extreme. if i ever do get another car like after school or something ill consider turning my jeep into a bad *** trail rig, but who knows. but for the time being 2wd is fine. so everybody kiss and make up and put it behind you.


back to the current plan, only things set in stone are the 63mm throtle body, new exhaust, air tube, and fuels injectors (Which i still need to find out specifics on) because i can sell my parents on better fuel economy. but as far as lift/ tires go im still not sure, im almost starting to consider just getting a 2" budget boost from rusty's. if i were to go that rout what is better, the leaf or shackle? also if i were to get that should i get new front springs or are the stock ones fine?

edit: also forgot to ask, what are and how do you make a bastard pack for leaf springs? is it just stuff ripped from a pick n pull and put together??

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