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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 07:28 AM
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I have a 96 cherokee and want to put 4pt harness on my front seats. I haven't been able to find any harness bars that will work with out a full cage. I was wondering if anyone has made just the harness bar.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Not much use in having harnesses and no cage... I'd much rather be in a regular seat belt in a rollover with no cage.

But if you insist, the easiest way would be to buy the Rusty's roll bar and add a harness bar to it.

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/rustys-...-roll-bar.html
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Just put in the full cage.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Just put in the full cage.
Seconded.

You can get a D&C Kit cage for cheap... Then just add a harness bar.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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I didn't wanna put a full cage in it cuz I don't do that hardcore of wheeling,just the way I sit in my seat the belt is so uncomfortable. That and I wanna go doorless in the front too so I feel like like will make it a little more safe.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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Your seat belt will be more than safe for going door less. What's uncomfortable about your seat belt? Could you get one of those adjuster things to help out? There's already little space on the back seat. If you put a bar in there'll be even less and all you gain is a harness. Don't forget you'll need new seats that can use a harness. Our stock seats won't support them.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Your seat belt will be more than safe for going door less. What's uncomfortable about your seat belt? Could you get one of those adjuster things to help out? There's already little space on the back seat. If you put a bar in there'll be even less and all you gain is a harness. Don't forget you'll need new seats that can use a harness. Our stock seats won't support them.
Beat me to it. Most people don't think about that until the get the harness and they don't work.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
Not much use in having harnesses and no cage... I'd much rather be in a regular seat belt in a rollover with no cage.

But if you insist, the easiest way would be to buy the Rusty's roll bar and add a harness bar to it.

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/rustys-...-roll-bar.html

holy crap! $220 for a piece of tubing with 2 bends and 4 tabs welded on... I hope anyone who buys that asks for a jar of vaseline with it...
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Tubing is six dollars a foot. It ain't cheap.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Just put in the full cage.
thirdeded

theres been a couple bad xj wrecks this summer. these things just crumple

Originally Posted by Red82
Your seat belt will be more than safe.
this. my 20 year old seatbelt locked me and my passenger perfectly in place when I flopped. stock seatbelts will do it. unless you're planning on doing a barrel roll or high speed stuff, I wouldnt bother messing with 4pt setup. unless you've got a cage and you want it
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Red82
Tubing is six dollars a foot. It ain't cheap.
$11 a foot for 2" 120 wall here. And that's full stick price, partial cost more.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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Yeah I think that'd sounds right actually. I think I was thinking of shindig else.
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Originally Posted by Atmos
this. my 20 year old seatbelt locked me and my passenger perfectly in place when I flopped. stock seatbelts will do it. unless you're planning on doing a barrel roll or high speed stuff, I wouldnt bother messing with 4pt setup. unless you've got a cage and you want it

I always wear my seatbelt, even when driving slow on flat trails, but when on stuff like gokarts and the like, I always forget. I barrel rolled my buddys old 250cc china dune buggy a few years ago running about 40mph. it flipped 5-6 times and came to a stop upside down. somehow I was still sitting in the seat holding onto the steering wheel. The "rollcage" was flattened down almost touching my head.

I'm planning a basic cage in my XJ, but I will never use 4-5 point harnesses in an offroad rig. Even if I were to build a buggy, I would still install factory style retractable 3 point belts.
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Originally Posted by Red82
Your seat belt will be more than safe for going door less. What's uncomfortable about your seat belt? Could you get one of those adjuster things to help out? There's already little space on the back seat. If you put a bar in there'll be even less and all you gain is a harness. Don't forget you'll need new seats that can use a harness. Our stock seats won't support them.
I sit too close to the steering wheel lol. I can't adjust the height or anything of the belt,I planed on getting bucket seats from summit anyway. I pulled the carpet up when welding a rust hole and found my passenger seat mount was basically gone. So I was gonna weld up some new mounts ad maybe while I was in there throw in a harness bar.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
Not much use in having harnesses and no cage... I'd much rather be in a regular seat belt in a rollover with no cage.

But if you insist, the easiest way would be to buy the Rusty's roll bar and add a harness bar to it.

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/rustys-...-roll-bar.html
Thanks for the link
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