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If your going to use a 4 point on the streets make sure its dot approved if not it can be a ticket.And going doorless some cops will pull you over just for that then they find other things.
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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
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I always wear my seatbelt, even when driving slow on flat trails, but when on stuff like gokarts and the like, I always forget. I barrel rolled my buddys old 250cc china dune buggy a few years ago running about 40mph. it flipped 5-6 times and came to a stop upside down. somehow I was still sitting in the seat holding onto the steering wheel. The "rollcage" was flattened down almost touching my head.
I'm planning a basic cage in my XJ, but I will never use 4-5 point harnesses in an offroad rig. Even if I were to build a buggy, I would still install factory style retractable 3 point belts.
I'm planning a basic cage in my XJ, but I will never use 4-5 point harnesses in an offroad rig. Even if I were to build a buggy, I would still install factory style retractable 3 point belts.
why not though? a suspension seat with proper harness is going to be better for your back and hold you in place in a rough flop. and you can release them just as fast as you can a factory seatbelt. if not faster.
and there shouldn't be any problems keeping the factory belt still in there if you want it
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From: Manahawkin New Jersey
Year: 1996
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Ya a friend of mine got pulled in his zj for having no doors. The cop said the tub of the truck wasn't tall enough so he needs a tube door. Than a loud exhaust ticket and ticket for not having fender flares.
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The op said something about not liking how the factory seat belts fit them.So it sounds like they want to remove them for the 4 point.What kills me when i see 4 or 5 point harness is a lot are installed wrong.You want no more then 20 degree angle from the top of your shoulders to the mounting point.If its a steeper angle in a wreck it will mess up your back.
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The op said something about not liking how the factory seat belts fit them.So it sounds like they want to remove them for the 4 point.What kills me when i see 4 or 5 point harness is a lot are installed wrong.You want no more then 20 degree angle from the top of your shoulders to the mounting point.If its a steeper angle in a wreck it will mess up your back.
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These are dot approved http://www.schrothracing.com/tuning/rallye/rallye-4 And a long read http://www.schroth.com/installation-.../en/index.html
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From: Menifee, CA
Year: 1989
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if you roll without a cage the roof is going to collapse, you don't want harness's holding you upright when your roof is collapsing on you. stick with regular seat belts until its caged
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Year: 1994
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Just what I was going to add. Even if your cage is constructed where your head doesn't touch it, your neck stretches during an accident. I wouldn't take much to cause a fracture if your head comes in contact with the tubing. Even a bicycle helmet would be better than none.
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