O_o

 

With over 1000 posts I would say you're being funny.

And that was funny

 

Couldn't help myself lol i like your front bumper set up thing too

 

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I started the thread stating that I took it off lol?

 

This thread is awesome...
Lol

 

Let me define what he meant.......eh hem....

"You call that flex son!"

He was being funny.

 

haha. I totally got trolled

 

It ****ing sucks on mountain roads or really curvy roads because of the ridiculous body roll. On the highway it's fine.

 

To get as much flex as possible on any little pebble they may encounter. DUH!

 

I run no sways front or rear... I dont drive it all that much on the street (maybe to the gas station or to the park once in a while with the little dude) and it feels incredibly stable on the road.

Since ive had this one, ive put almost 1100 miles on it (after the lift) and i bet 400 of those are steet driving around town and have never felt unsafe in it. You just have to know that there is no sway bars and compensate accordingly... Anyone with any skill behind the wheel can understand that.

 

First off, thanks to the OP for the good info! I've been curious myself as to how much difference there is (I know there's a good bit when I use my disconnects).

As for the guys who have a higher level of acceptable risk, there's something else to think about. If you do get in an accident and say you crash into someone and kill them or someone in your vehicle dies, you're liable. If the investigators find out you modified your vehicle and removed what is industry standard equipment for safe handling of the vehicle then just about anyone else involved in the accident can sue you back to the stone age. Not to mention the insurance company may not pay up. Kind of like if you removed the front brakes and then rear ended someone because you couldn't stop. Think insurance is going to cover that? You're not the only one on the road and you're not just putting yourself in danger and when people will sue because they slipped on your wet grass you have to on top of your game.

Better yet, if you do roll over on the highway and your GF/wife/kid is in the vehicle and they are killed, do you want to live the rest of your life wondering if they would still be alive if you hadn't removed the sway bar and been able to maintain control of the vehicle?

Personally that is too much risk for myself and I use disconnects. The $150 is cheaper than my deductible and I have peace of mind that if I have to swerve and I roll the rig it WASN'T because I removed the sway bar.

 

valid points. but after I do 1 ton steering upgrades and everything else I have to fit under my front end I just wont feel like messing with a sway bar. for me personally, it would be pointless

and accidents do happen. but if you're driving a rig on the street unsafely enough to roll it then you were an idiot in the first place. safe driving and good brakes are what you need. you're not supposed to swerve in an accident situation anyway. if a lifted truck wants to roll, it's gonna roll

I'd be more worried about my "redrilled track bar" failing and losing my whole front end. people run much unsafer setups than just having no sway bars

 

It's not a case of driving like an idiot. It's about the unexpected happening like when a large animal runs out of the woods right in front of you, or that old lady pulls out directly in front of you, or the car directly in front of you suddenly out of nowhere swerves and sideswipes the car next to them initiating a pileup (I watched this happen in my mirror on my motorcycle on the freeway, thankfully I was in front and not behind), or the on coming guy falls asleep and when he's about 200 feet in front of you suddenly drives across the center line.

I would agree that under normal driving conditions going without sway bars won't create any issues. I've done it running a short distance over to the trail from my inlaws. It's when you get into an emergency situation that requires slit second reactions that you can get yourself into trouble. Probably 98% of the guys that remove them on the road won't have problems, but I don't envy that other 2%.

Steering actually doesn't have anything to do with body roll. That is solely determined by suspension (sway bars, springs, shocks)

 

you're supposed to hit the brakes and slow the vehicle as much as you can before impact. not try to avoid the unavoidable. if your setup is not stable enough to avoid the every day encounters of a daily drive then yes, you should be running a sway bar

 

gee I didn't know bump steer wasnt part of steering...