do I neeed sway bars.
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They are JKS, I just put them on my XJ yesterday. Based on your picture, order up upper& lower bushings, and new pins if they're tough to remove. They are stout, good sway bars. WhEn you take them off to install new bushings, be sure to torque everything to the required ft/lb. don't want to have something come loose.
I ran without them for a week when I installed my lift. Would NEVER do that again (if you drive it on the road). Body roll was terrible, add lift & wind, = DANGER RIDE....
I ran without them for a week when I installed my lift. Would NEVER do that again (if you drive it on the road). Body roll was terrible, add lift & wind, = DANGER RIDE....
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Ok yeah I emailed JKS they are putting together a list for what I need.as for how many ft/lb how do u determine that when I do it.I wont drive it til I put the bushings and all on.and if I cant get the pin out.your saying if there hard to remove there good? These things are just hanging there not doing anything haha seriously u can move them back and forth with your pinky
If the retained pins are loose then you're good. My last set of disco's were trashed, pins were rusted in and I had to cut everything off with an angle grinder. Grab some never seize and use it on everything or when you need to work on it down the road everything's gonna be seized solid.
I'll see if I can't take a pict of the installation directions. It'll tell you what nuts/bolts need to be tightened to. Use RED thread lock on the top Allen bolt also.
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Ft/lb, head over to harbor freight & buy a torque wrench for either 3/8" or 1/2" drive (what ever sockets you have). They are cheap there & as you hardly ever use them can't see spending over $100 for it.
If the retained pins are loose then you're good. My last set of disco's were trashed, pins were rusted in and I had to cut everything off with an angle grinder. Grab some never seize and use it on everything or when you need to work on it down the road everything's gonna be seized solid.
I'll see if I can't take a pict of the installation directions. It'll tell you what nuts/bolts need to be tightened to. Use RED thread lock on the top Allen bolt also.
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If you go to this link and scroll down to "swaybar components" the first set of installation instructions are for your quick disconnects. I'm having server problem which won't let me view the instructions. HOPE it helps.
http://jksmfg.com/rt-1326-installati...tructions.html
http://jksmfg.com/rt-1326-installati...tructions.html
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Ah, the age old XJ question that spurs arguments upon arguments. Personally, I haven't ran either front or rear for a couple years now and have been perfectly fine. I've had to do emergency lane changes to avoid idiot drivers and I've been fine. But that doesn't mean everyone else should ditch them. Sway bars do have a purpose. They do give a vehicle more stability during transitional maneuvers and to be quite honest, 99% of people should leave them on and use disconnects for offroad use.
However, if a well trained driver knows how to handle they're vehicle well enough, they are not necessarily needed. By a well trained driver I mean someone who has actually taking defensive and aggressive driving classes that teach a person how to keep a vehicle in control at the very limits. If an untrained person does a Scandinavian Flick (which uses the same motions as an emergency lane change) in a lifted Jeep, odds are they're gonna flip it over. However, you take a trained person and put them in the same Jeep, they'll be fine. It's about being able to properly control the vehicle. And here is where common sense comes in. If you have ANY questionable doubt about whether you should keep the sway bars or not, keep them.
And of course there are the situation that having sway bars and not having them would make no difference whatsoever. These however are fewer than most people probably think and the vast majority of times the lack of a front sway bar is blamed is in reality a lack of skill on the driver's part.
However, if a well trained driver knows how to handle they're vehicle well enough, they are not necessarily needed. By a well trained driver I mean someone who has actually taking defensive and aggressive driving classes that teach a person how to keep a vehicle in control at the very limits. If an untrained person does a Scandinavian Flick (which uses the same motions as an emergency lane change) in a lifted Jeep, odds are they're gonna flip it over. However, you take a trained person and put them in the same Jeep, they'll be fine. It's about being able to properly control the vehicle. And here is where common sense comes in. If you have ANY questionable doubt about whether you should keep the sway bars or not, keep them.
And of course there are the situation that having sway bars and not having them would make no difference whatsoever. These however are fewer than most people probably think and the vast majority of times the lack of a front sway bar is blamed is in reality a lack of skill on the driver's part.
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Ah, the age old XJ question that spurs arguments upon arguments. Personally, I haven't ran either front or rear for a couple years now and have been perfectly fine. I've had to do emergency lane changes to avoid idiot drivers and I've been fine. But that doesn't mean everyone else should ditch them. Sway bars do have a purpose. They do give a vehicle more stability during transitional maneuvers and to be quite honest, 99% of people should leave them on and use disconnects for offroad use.
However, if a well trained driver knows how to handle they're vehicle well enough, they are not necessarily needed. By a well trained driver I mean someone who has actually taking defensive and aggressive driving classes that teach a person how to keep a vehicle in control at the very limits. If an untrained person does a Scandinavian Flick (which uses the same motions as an emergency lane change) in a lifted Jeep, odds are they're gonna flip it over. However, you take a trained person and put them in the same Jeep, they'll be fine. It's about being able to properly control the vehicle. And here is where common sense comes in. If you have ANY questionable doubt about whether you should keep the sway bars or not, keep them.
And of course there are the situation that having sway bars and not having them would make no difference whatsoever. These however are fewer than most people probably think and the vast majority of times the lack of a front sway bar is blamed is in reality a lack of skill on the driver's part.
However, if a well trained driver knows how to handle they're vehicle well enough, they are not necessarily needed. By a well trained driver I mean someone who has actually taking defensive and aggressive driving classes that teach a person how to keep a vehicle in control at the very limits. If an untrained person does a Scandinavian Flick (which uses the same motions as an emergency lane change) in a lifted Jeep, odds are they're gonna flip it over. However, you take a trained person and put them in the same Jeep, they'll be fine. It's about being able to properly control the vehicle. And here is where common sense comes in. If you have ANY questionable doubt about whether you should keep the sway bars or not, keep them.
And of course there are the situation that having sway bars and not having them would make no difference whatsoever. These however are fewer than most people probably think and the vast majority of times the lack of a front sway bar is blamed is in reality a lack of skill on the driver's part.
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Upper O2 sensor and the axle is a dana30.
And i wasn't trying to criticize your driving. Just saying stuff that many people don't think of.
You can drive on em how they are just fine for a little while but the bushings do need to be there if you plan on keeping the disconnects. Otherwise you risk damaging the threads if you hit a big enough bump and the disconnect smashes against the post. That and they could easily bed the lock pin and then you risk them hanging to low or getting caught in the coil.
And i wasn't trying to criticize your driving. Just saying stuff that many people don't think of.
You can drive on em how they are just fine for a little while but the bushings do need to be there if you plan on keeping the disconnects. Otherwise you risk damaging the threads if you hit a big enough bump and the disconnect smashes against the post. That and they could easily bed the lock pin and then you risk them hanging to low or getting caught in the coil.
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Upper O2 sensor and the axle is a dana30.
And i wasn't trying to criticize your driving. Just saying stuff that many people don't think of.
You can drive on em how they are just fine for a little while but the bushings do need to be there if you plan on keeping the disconnects. Otherwise you risk damaging the threads if you hit a big enough bump and the disconnect smashes against the post. That and they could easily bed the lock pin and then you risk them hanging to low or getting caught in the coil.
And i wasn't trying to criticize your driving. Just saying stuff that many people don't think of.
You can drive on em how they are just fine for a little while but the bushings do need to be there if you plan on keeping the disconnects. Otherwise you risk damaging the threads if you hit a big enough bump and the disconnect smashes against the post. That and they could easily bed the lock pin and then you risk them hanging to low or getting caught in the coil.
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If you go to this link and scroll down to "swaybar components" the first set of installation instructions are for your quick disconnects. I'm having server problem which won't let me view the instructions. HOPE it helps.
http://jksmfg.com/rt-1326-installati...tructions.html
http://jksmfg.com/rt-1326-installati...tructions.html
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