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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by f@gfordacrag
We don't have any crazy law like that I know of. So you mean to tell me if you pump 50 grand into it after purchase and create a show car you can't insure it for what it's worth?
can buy special insurance that costs $$
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 06:17 PM
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You're NEVER gonna win a fight against DMV
They get their cut or your truck stays parked.
Jump thru their hoops and be done with it- lesson learned.
Sorry tough advice but I feel your pain. Better to just end it.
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
No purchase price or something like "sum of $1 and other valuable consideration" listed on the current title?
Yes, purchase price is $2000 listed on the title signed by us both and notarized.
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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My dad had this issue at the DMV. He went out back to his car and luck had it that the original owner was in the parking lot and happily signed it!
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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Pay the extra $120 and be done with it. The guy has no reason to help you and the state has men with guns and qualified immunity. Getting madder about it won't help or change anything.

Now you know, your friends know, your family knows, and we know. So at least there's that.
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardpc
Pay the extra $120 and be done with it. The guy has no reason to help you and the state has men with guns and qualified immunity. Getting madder about it won't help or change anything.

Now you know, your friends know, your family knows, and we know. So at least there's that.
Yeah I think the op should have looked into everything he needed before he left to go get the jeep. That dude is probably on another forum talking about the op as well haha that would be funny.
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by f@gfordacrag
Yes, purchase price is $2000 listed on the title signed by us both and notarized.
After looking at the KY website, sorry man they got ya.
The website states specifically what must be done as far as tax forms to title an out of state vehicle in KY. As the legal types say "ignorance of the law is no excuse". We are only talking about what 6% tax? Live & learn I guess.
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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I've never heard of any BS forms necessary in vehicle transactions, neither has plenty of other people I've told about this. I did all I could do damn it, I crammed months worth of Jeep knowledge in in 2 weeks time to be sure I bought a good rig. I made sure everything worked, the title was legit, the vins matched on everything and it was a notarized deal. I couldn't have done any damn more. Bureaucrats SUCK is all I'm taking from this.
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 06:51 PM
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Could this guy be stalling trying to do some kind of scam bs? Like file for a lost title while I dick around with him trying to get this form? I'm just thinking since he's a scum bag and all he's probably scheming up something. I just can't understand any reason for someone to be such an *** otherwise. I hope he does read this so he can realize what trash he is. Thanks to all for looking into this though and offering your stories and experience, we're not all jerks at least.

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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by f@gfordacrag
I've never heard of any BS forms necessary in vehicle transactions, neither has plenty of other people I've told about this.
I'd never heard of that kind of thing, either, until I sold a car with a blown engine. NADA value was like $4,000 and I sold it for $800. A week later the buyer calls me saying he needed me to sign an affidavit about the sales price. Turns out you have to do that here in TN for any vehicle sold for less than some percentage of NADA.

But yeah the KY dmv sites are pretty unambiguous that this form is needed for out of state purchases.
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 07:05 PM
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I didn't go web searching for rules to buy a vehicle before hand. Signed and notarized title is all that should be needed. Putting someone in a difficult position requesting you reconnect and require something from the selling party is stupid.

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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by f@gfordacrag
I didn't go web searching for rules to buy a vehicle before hand. Signed and notarized title is all that should be needed. Putting someone in a difficult position requesting you reconnect and require something from the selling party is stupid.
No offense my man but I think this one is on you. If you are buying a vehicle, especially from out of state, you should look to see what you need because every state is differrent. No need to bash the guy that sold the jeep. He sold it and is done with it and then you call him up to have more stuff signed? As far as the form, I'm sure there is a sound reason for it. I learned a lesson similar to this when I bought a camper from out of state. It sucked but it taught me to always make sure I was prepared.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
No offense my man but I think this one is on you. If you are buying a vehicle, especially from out of state, you should look to see what you need because every state is differrent. No need to bash the guy that sold the jeep. He sold it and is done with it and then you call him up to have more stuff signed? As far as the form, I'm sure there is a sound reason for it. I learned a lesson similar to this when I bought a camper from out of state. It sucked but it taught me to always make sure I was prepared.
I realize it's on me but Jesus, it's a simple signature on a form. You act like I'm asking him to run a marathon or something. I bought his vehicle and paid his asking price but I guess a simple returned favor is too much to ask. Christ, I even mailed him a return envelope, the postage and offered to pay any notary fee.. I'm so hard to deal with. It takes 5 minutes to go into a bank, sign a paper and have it notarized, only a total ***** would blow someone off over that. It has nothing to do with owing me anything, he doesn't. It's about being a general decent human being and concluding our business on a good note. That's all I have to say about the matter, I'm going to pay the damn money and forget this crap ever happened. Next time I will be a complete jerk and force the seller to conclude all paperwork and business in front of a notary or I don't buy.

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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by f@gfordacrag
I've never heard of any BS forms necessary in vehicle transactions, neither has plenty of other people I've told about this.

Ignorance multiplied by Large Numbers is still ignorance. The forms and the rules are on the website.


You can keep crying or you can pay up.
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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To the OP, I'm from KY too. I found out the hard way when I was much younger about the tax codes and title stuff. Your best bet now is to pay the extra cash. It's not that much in the grand scheme of things. Especially of you consider you haven't driven the vehicle in a month.

In metro Louisville if you register a car from out of state the sheriff office will perform a full inspection. In outlying countles, they do a simple VIN match and mileage check.

KY has had that form for out of state taxes for at least 15 years that I know of. It's annoying as hell but just chock it up to knowledge. You'll not make this mistake again.

I doubt the dude is trying to scam you at this point. He probably just doesn't care about your $200
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