8.25 diff gremlin
Hey everyone, as much as I hate to post a possible redundant thread I have yet to find anything on this forum or any other jeep forum that explains my problem.
Long story short I didn't have any sort of noises until I put new leaf springs and shocks in my 98 Cherokee.
Once I had replaced said parts I began to notice vibrations upon acceleration, vibrations tapered off as I exceeded 40mph, at which point I would feather off the throttle and "coast" and notice almost what sounds like excessive backlash from the ring and pinion. If I tap on and off the throttle I get a clunk. If I hold the pedal in just the right spot at about 60 I almost can get a picture in my head of the ring and pinion rattling together....however, Rather than jump the gun I did research and replaced all my u joints( put antiseize on the DS splines) as well as replaced the transmission mount, I also put new diff fluids f/r.figuring that my new springs had brought the driveline angles back in check and exposed a bad u joint. Much to my disappointment after replacing all those parts I still have the problem.
I have no pinion play. However I notice backlash when I turn the DS with the rear end jacked up. How much backlash is too much? And can excessive backlash be causing my issues?
Again, I apologize if this has been covered numerous times, I spent the last few days trying to find someone with a similar description of my problem. Thanks for any help.
Long story short I didn't have any sort of noises until I put new leaf springs and shocks in my 98 Cherokee.
Once I had replaced said parts I began to notice vibrations upon acceleration, vibrations tapered off as I exceeded 40mph, at which point I would feather off the throttle and "coast" and notice almost what sounds like excessive backlash from the ring and pinion. If I tap on and off the throttle I get a clunk. If I hold the pedal in just the right spot at about 60 I almost can get a picture in my head of the ring and pinion rattling together....however, Rather than jump the gun I did research and replaced all my u joints( put antiseize on the DS splines) as well as replaced the transmission mount, I also put new diff fluids f/r.figuring that my new springs had brought the driveline angles back in check and exposed a bad u joint. Much to my disappointment after replacing all those parts I still have the problem.
I have no pinion play. However I notice backlash when I turn the DS with the rear end jacked up. How much backlash is too much? And can excessive backlash be causing my issues?
Again, I apologize if this has been covered numerous times, I spent the last few days trying to find someone with a similar description of my problem. Thanks for any help.
Last edited by BrainDead; Feb 27, 2016 at 06:44 PM.
Now that you mention it I did fail to check my pinion angle when I installed my new leaf packs. Just went out and looked and the pinion seems to be sitting much lower relative to the t-case.
Last edited by BrainDead; Feb 28, 2016 at 08:25 AM.
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Did u apply final torque with weight on wheels. Sometimes weird stuff happens when bolts are torqued on stands. Then it's constantly bidding on the ground.
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Hey everyone, as much as I hate to post a possible redundant thread I have yet to find anything on this forum or any other jeep forum that explains my problem.
Long story short I didn't have any sort of noises until I put new leaf springs and shocks in my 98 Cherokee.
Once I had replaced said parts I began to notice vibrations upon acceleration, vibrations tapered off as I exceeded 40mph, at which point I would feather off the throttle and "coast" and notice almost what sounds like excessive backlash from the ring and pinion. If I tap on and off the throttle I get a clunk. If I hold the pedal in just the right spot at about 60 I almost can get a picture in my head of the ring and pinion rattling together....however, Rather than jump the gun I did research and replaced all my u joints( put antiseize on the DS splines) as well as replaced the transmission mount, I also put new diff fluids f/r.figuring that my new springs had brought the driveline angles back in check and exposed a bad u joint. Much to my disappointment after replacing all those parts I still have the problem.
I have no pinion play. However I notice backlash when I turn the DS with the rear end jacked up. How much backlash is too much? And can excessive backlash be causing my issues?
Again, I apologize if this has been covered numerous times, I spent the last few days trying to find someone with a similar description of my problem. Thanks for any help.
Long story short I didn't have any sort of noises until I put new leaf springs and shocks in my 98 Cherokee.
Once I had replaced said parts I began to notice vibrations upon acceleration, vibrations tapered off as I exceeded 40mph, at which point I would feather off the throttle and "coast" and notice almost what sounds like excessive backlash from the ring and pinion. If I tap on and off the throttle I get a clunk. If I hold the pedal in just the right spot at about 60 I almost can get a picture in my head of the ring and pinion rattling together....however, Rather than jump the gun I did research and replaced all my u joints( put antiseize on the DS splines) as well as replaced the transmission mount, I also put new diff fluids f/r.figuring that my new springs had brought the driveline angles back in check and exposed a bad u joint. Much to my disappointment after replacing all those parts I still have the problem.
I have no pinion play. However I notice backlash when I turn the DS with the rear end jacked up. How much backlash is too much? And can excessive backlash be causing my issues?
Again, I apologize if this has been covered numerous times, I spent the last few days trying to find someone with a similar description of my problem. Thanks for any help.
I was sure to do final torquing of the leafs and shackles with weight on the rear.
Is shimming recommended if necessary? I've only had the leafs in for about 3 weeks, maybe they will "settle" enough to bring the angle back? Or doubtful?
Do you also notice the vibration around 75-80 mph while on the gas? I ask because I have a very similar problem with my '98 (I also replaced the sagging rear leafs recently with the same Doormans), and it does the vibration both around 35-40 and 75-80 or so. The driveshaft U-joints seem tight, though I have no idea how old they are. I was sure to do final torquing of the leafs and shackles with weight on the rear.
My jeep has 167,xxx on the ticker...
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Degree shims. Measure the SY ujoint angles and the pinion yoke angles. Should be within 1-3* of each other. Assuming you don't have a SYE installed. If greater than 3* difference, your driveshaft is out of phase.
Degree shims. Measure the SY ujoint angles and the pinion yoke angles. Should be within 1-3* of each other. Assuming you don't have a SYE installed. If greater than 3* difference, your driveshaft is out of phase. Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idk3BVDVHq4
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Is that even likely at stock height? I always figured that's the kind of thing you have to watch our for when you do a 4"+ lift.
Is it worth removing the front shaft to single out the rear?
The vibrations happen on acceleration, yes. But the vibration turns to chatter right when my foot is taken off the gas for a brief moment. until it almost seems like the ring and pinion seat each other and it quiets down entirely.
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How did you measure the angle?
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